▶ 0:00:54good afternoon the committee will come to order without objection the committee's the chair is authorized to declare a recess at any time today the rules committee is convening to consider hr77 the midnight rules Relief act the midnight rules Relief act was considered by the rules committee and passed the house before the 118th Congress ended we're back to finish the job and to set this bill on glide path directly to president
▶ 0:01:24Trump's desk previous administrations both Republican and Democrat have churned out hundreds of new rules what we refer to as midnight rules as the clock winds down on their respective ten years as a direct result Congress becomes Meed in regulatory malaise it's an all two familiar occurrence that should be remedied now Congress already possesses the power to hold regulatory overreach
▶ 0:01:54and check via current law which is a congressional review Act that said the Congressional review Act is limited in scope in that it applies to a single rule for subsequent rules that are issued each one requires its own separate resolution as one can imagine previous administrations both Republican and Democrat have seized upon this and inundated congress with regulatory blitzes often to the detriment of
▶ 0:02:24the very people we are here to serve our constituents the midnight rules relief act provides a reasonable Common Sense remedy to this problem that has existed for decades hr77 provides the legislative branch with a leg up with respect to Executive rulemaking regardless of the administration by allowing Congress to consider multiple rules in one Fell Swoop the result of this is twofold Congress can keep
▶ 0:02:54Pace with the issuance of midnight rules and it can also provide a necessary deal diligent check against the federal bureaucracy spurring Congressional efficiency and reigning in the federal bureaucracy at the same time are causes worthy of bipartisan support I certainly believe that to be true speaking of bipartisan support I'll note this legislation did receive bipartisan support in December I do hope that more of our
▶ 0:03:24Democrat colleagues will take the opportunity the second time around to join Us in passing it I look forward to the discussion on this legislation and I yield to ranking member Mr McGovern for any comments he wishes to make well thank you madam chair and um as you mentioned today we will consider hr77 the midnight rules Relief act uh we met on this bill back in December now the stakes are even higher so let's be very clear this bill is nothing more
▶ 0:03:55than a blatant power grab by House Republicans designed to make it as easy as possible to gut protections for everyday people and who benefits you guessed it billionaires in special interests because the thing is billionaires want no workplace protections they want no rules against dumping toxic chemicals into our food water or air they want no restrictions on corporate greed and Republicans are all too happy to help them get their way by dismantling the very agencies that hold them accountable the goal
▶ 0:04:25is to destroy our government and rebuild it to serve the president his cronies and the ultra for Rich the midnight rules Relief act is just another Tool uh to speed up that process and it's right out of the project 2025 Playbook remember that uh project 2025 writer now om director Russell V wrote and I quote to leverage the cra's power to the maximum extent Congress and the President should enact the midnight rules Relief act which would
▶ 0:04:55help to ensure that multiple regulatory actions could be packaged and voted on at the the same time end quote translation if Republicans win in November which they did uh they want this build in place so they can gut regulations immediately handing even more power over to polluters scammers monopolies and corporate profiteers and who will pay the price the American people the last thing we should do is give Republicans another weapon to dismantle our government
▶ 0:05:25you control the house and you control the Senate if you want to strip protection from hardworking families put your mandate pants on and have the courage to vote to roll back protections one by one so that every American knows exactly where each of you stands with that I yield back thank you Mr McGovern with that objection any prepared statements that our Witnesses may have will be included in the record I welcome our first panel representative
▶ 0:05:55Klein and ranking member Rasin from the committee on the I remind witnesses that your full statement may be submitted for the record and we ask that you summarize your statement in five minutes or less representative Klein I welcome your testimony thank you madam chair members of the committee hr77 the midnight rules Relief act is an important piece of legislation that will allow Congress to more effectively and efficiently oversee Federal agency rulemaking
▶ 0:06:26under this Congressional review act known as the CRA executive agencies must report all prolongated rules to both chambers of Congress this reporting requirement allows Congress to properly consider Federal Regulations before they take effect CRA gives Congress the ability to pass joint resolutions to prevent these agency rules from taking effect the cra's disapproval mechanism is a critical check on federal administrative overreach however the CRA requires Congress to consider a single separate joint resolution for each
▶ 0:06:56agency rule it seeks to render unenforceable this one by one approach to joint resolutions under the CRA slows congress's oversight of agency rulemaking inefficiency is most clear during the midnight rulemaking period of the last year of a president's term when executive agencies historically issue substantially more regulations to the problem of midnight rule making is most clear clearly seen by examining the Biden administration's rules that fall within the CRA look back window
▶ 0:07:26this window includes any rule submitted to Congress from August 16th 2024 to the end of the Biden Administration during that period the Biden Administration finalized a staggering 1,46 Rules by forcing Congress to consider rules but one by one the CRA limits congress's ability to review such an onslaught of rulemaking in the Twilight hours of a president's term hr77 would make congress's oversight of agency regulatory activity during this midnight rulemaking period more efficient the midnight rules Relief act would allow Congress
▶ 0:07:56to introduce joint resolutions covering multiple agency rules during the final year in president's term and this change would allow Congress to efficiently respond to the influx and agency regulations during the midnight hours of the president's term I look forward to answering any questions you may have Madam chair I back thank you Mr Klein two minutes very good Mr Raskin you're recognized thank you chairwoman fox the pressure is on um so the the purpose of the bill before us is not to
▶ 0:08:26give Congress the power to undo midnight rules because Congress as you say Madame chair already has that power for example right now House Republicans can try to undo every single rule issued by the Biden Administration from August of last year to inauguration day this is a a potent power which properly reflects the broader congressional power to legislate and to correct or revise an agency's interpretation of a statute so what does the bill do well uh it would allow a majority to roll up lots of midnight regulations
▶ 0:08:57indeed all of them adopt in the final months of the prior Administration together tie them into a large bunch and then vote them down in a single jumbo resolution this tactic would be used to try to get Congress to eliminate all available midnight RS in one Fell Swoop forcing every member to vote either to sustain all of the regulations or to vote all of them down this would allow the 119th Congress for example to tie all the 66 relevant
▶ 0:09:27Biden regulations from last ter term into one bundle and move to vaporize them in a single vote it would undoubtedly take place with precious little debate but even if there were meaningful debate the whole process would be deeply flawed because what's a member to do if he or she strongly approves say of overturning 50 of the rules but strongly opposes overturning 16 of them do they let the majority of the bills overtake the minority and vote I on the whole
▶ 0:09:57package or do they give the smaller group of bills The veto power and vote no this weird dilemma forces us to ask why we would even Force such a choice the Manifest purpose of the bill is to allow house members to hide from the political consequences of voting to repeal rules one by one it allows our GOP friends to say they were forced to overturn some really good water quality or infant safety regulations because they were so eager to strike down some other big bad
▶ 0:10:28regulation in the package AG instead of considering these regs one at a time on their merits as current law requires the bill creates the power in Congress to wipe out potentially hundreds of regulations in a single coer of Partyline Vote or 66 of them in this Congress when I first heard about this classic inside the Beltway legislative subterfuge I immediately wanted to get in touch with the gentleman from Arizona representative Andy bigs because I remember that he was the proud and very compelling sponsor of HR 91
▶ 0:10:58the one Bill one subject transparency act this legislation requires each bill or joint resolution to quote include no more than one subject and the subject to be clearly and descriptively expressed in the measures title thus the midnight regulation kitchen SN bill would violate everything Congressman bigs believes about the legislative process members should be voting on one subject only or one regulation at a time not a dozen different subjects and a dozen different
▶ 0:11:28rules and the title of the bill should clearly communicate its proper subject but amazingly before I could get to representative bigs to tell him that we had to get together to stop this monstrosity I was told by my staff that he was actually the author of The Midnight rules reliefed act the lead sponsor of the one bill one subject transparency Act is now advocating this massive conglomeration of subjects and decisions a huge legislative stew where poison pills and healthy
▶ 0:11:59vegetables are mixed up freely and thrown in together for one deliberately confusing and incomprehensible meal this approach is exactly what my friends in the freedom caucus have complained about for years the passage of needlessly complex legislation covering way too many topics at once as Mr biggs's press release on one bill one subject stated too often Congressional leaders use must-pass bills as methods for passing other laws that may have failed if considered on their own Mr Big's tradition
▶ 0:12:29solution to this problem has been simple the one bill one subject transparency act which he fought for last Congress would require that every Bill considered by the house Encompass no more than one subject at a time and if it doesn't if it goes beyond that the entire bill becomes void so I will stand up for the principle I once thought unified me with Mr Bigs even if for some reason he's gone over to the dark side on this one borrowing from his former principles I proposed an amendment to the midnight rules Relief act using language
▶ 0:12:59directly from his legislation I propose that any resolution we consider overturning agency rule should be limited to a single subject and if the resolution tries to nullify regulations in two or more diverse subject areas the resolution as he would have it becomes null and void the whole point of the one bill one subject house Republican movement As I understood it is that we should not avoid legislative transparency or accountability by shoving unrelated mysterious packages into a single Le moving
▶ 0:13:29legislative vehicle I'm going to insist on the same standard today Congress can already block midnight rules one at a time with a scalpel it seems deceptive backsliding now to smash all of them at once with the Jackhammer I urge my colleagues to oppose the midnight rules Relief act and feeling that I urge you to make my amendment in order and I look forward to your questions and you'll back Mr chairman thank you very much appreciate you yielding back now recognize Miss fishbach for for her questions thank you very much and
▶ 0:14:01I I I just want to refocus just a smidge um and this bill simply allows Congress to oversee the administrative rule making without without bogging us down for each and every rule but it is only on those rules that are issued in the last 60 days of a presidency is that correct Mr Clin that it would allow for uh those rules that were issued in the last year year
▶ 0:14:31okay of a president's term uh but the CRA only allows for consideration within the 60-day window okay okay but it is limited yes it it is not this great horrible thing uh that the that the opposition is trying to make it out to be that we are just going to pile things together and and create this uh bill and it's great mystery to the entire country of what's in the bill no I appreciate the question it it definitely would not uh it is simply a
▶ 0:15:01measure designed to increase efficiency the minority always has the option of bringing legislation to address the specific regulation that they're concerned about um and it would disincentivize uh what we saw out of the last Administration which was waiting until the end of the administration to issue over a thousand regulations uh that really place an enormous cost on businesses on
▶ 0:15:32citizens of the country and and so this is a a designed to address that but also to assist in the efficient use of time by Congress and by the good gentlemen and gentle ladies on this panel and and and Mr clein I'll just mention that you know last week we had a bill in um regarding Fentanyl and there was a lot of discussion from the other side regarding executive overreach and executive overreach and they were very concerned about it then um
▶ 0:16:02but now with this bill um where it would put some check on Executive overreach they that doesn't seem to be the issue and uh and so I I think that overregulation is something that we heard about all the time during the election and we hear it still we hear about it before the election during the election and after the election about the over overregulation what it's doing to small businesses what it's doing to our farmers and so I appreciate that you are trying to get at that
▶ 0:16:32and be able to address it um and and re in that executive overreach and isn't it interesting that we're we had that we had the bill last year but we're continuing it because executive overreach is always there so um you know we we we are consistent in the fact that we are looking at this and making sure that we can um address the overregulation so I appreciate you bringing the forward and I yield back G lady yields back now recognized a ranking member of M govern yeah thank
▶ 0:17:02you I'm a little confused um the G lady talked about us complain about executive overreach and fentol um I I don't I don't recall that all I recalled during that debate was that some of us uh wanted to know why my Republican friends were okay with the president of the United States pardoning a guy who helped funnel uh fentol into this country who is U given a life sentence by a federal court you know why why that was okay for him to be pardoned so I don't know what I mean
▶ 0:17:33I mean I president has the right to Pardon whoever he wants to Pardon but uh the issue was like I I was just surprised that so many of my friends thought that was okay or you know felt it was um something that they had to be silent on and and and again talking about executive overreach at this moment uh in time I mean is is laughable to be honest with you I mean these regulations whether you like them or not uh went through and exhausted in legal legal process and um look what's
▶ 0:18:03look what's happening now um I mean this President and weirdo Elon Musk and these young his minions are going through people's personal information uh they are shutting trying to shut down usaid and now we're told the Department of Education they don't have the legal authority to do that that's what that that's executive overreach um and the courts are ruling uh that it is executive overreach and the
▶ 0:18:33president has no right to be able to to do that and now we're being told by the White House that they may ignore uh what the courts say I mean that now now we have a constitutional crisis on our hands and so and my friends are totally fine with all this just going on uh because it's Donald Trump and Elon Musk and they're afraid to make any waves um but uh I going to Mr raskins point um under this bill you can just put you could you could
▶ 0:19:03put a whole bunch of these uh regulations into one package um and have an hour debate half an hour on each side you may hide some good things in there that some people on your side might even think is a is is a is a good proper oversight of the federal government and there'll be no debate on any of this and when the gener talks about us being you know we don't don't want to be bogged down I don't know I'm looking at the schedule does anybody here think that we have a busy legislative schedule
▶ 0:19:34I mean I I mean we I think we have two bills this week plus some suspension bills I mean you could you could bring up five of these CRA if you wanted to and we have plenty of time to you know do it's a FIV minute vote um an hour an hour debate on each one of them I mean the idea that we're bogged down we're trying to save time come on this is like what are we doing here I don't know Mr Ras do you want to add anything before I I mean I would go first further than that I would say if we had to stay past 5:00 p.m. or 6:00 p.m.
▶ 0:20:04in order to do the people's business we should do it and I mean it very seriously about representative bigs I always appreciated the fact that he concentrated on voting on one discret subject at a time so the public could understand what we're really voting on up or down and now suddenly he his name at least I I was hoping to see him here so I could ask him about it but his name is on top of a bill that would allow us to pack in completely unrelated subjects on totally different regulations and vote for them
▶ 0:20:34on mass when I count 66 that's a conservative estimate that's just from the final 60 days if we indeed took uh as the good gentleman suggests all of the regulations from the year you could put hundreds in there and just vote them down and I concede your implicit Point Mr McGovern that well at least they'd be coming to Congress to do it with Elon Musk he's just remaking the law on his own he's a fourth branch of government he does whatever he wants so here maybe they think that
▶ 0:21:04at least they would be gesturing at some form of legality but I think that that's a really dangerous way to go to have people voting on everything from you know Animal Welfare to water quality to air quality to Food and Drug to the defense department to NSA to space all in one bill and how are you going to explain to people who are your constituents what you're voting on and what you did will anybody even be able to remember it so that totally Cuts against
▶ 0:21:34what I thought the freedom caucus has been fighting for which is one subject one bill the name of their centerpiece legislation yeah I look I think the deal here is to not be held accountable I mean to vote on monstrosity leg pieces of legislation so that nobody can be held accountable for individual votes and by the way CRA I remember were all brought to the floor under closed rules uh so I mean I assume you know you would bring this to the floor into a closed rule you know you take away our ability to be able to amend
▶ 0:22:04things to be able to offer amendments and now you want to take away our ability to debate these subject matters I mean I think that's um you know that's dangerous for this institution I thank you both for being here I yeld back I would note that uh Freedom caucus is open to all kinds of folks and if the gentleman wishes to join feel free to fill out an application uh that being said Mr Lang worthy for your time thank you very much Mr chairman representative Klein to to just clarify this the process outlined under
▶ 0:22:34the CRA has been abused by both Democrat and Republican administrations through midnight Ru making uh would that be correct yes although the cost imposed on businesses uh were made much worse by Democrat Administration regulations okay thank you and I I understand our colleagues across the I have characterized this legislation as protecting the scammers at the expense of the American people uh what would you say to this charge and what sort of beneficial economic impact will
▶ 0:23:05this legislation truly have for American workers and American job creators well let's just look at the last administration's uh effort to pass several different regulations as they left uh office you you saw an impact on um hardworking men and women uh who are maybe struggling to make ends meet but trying to afford the basic necessities of life a new Biden energy final rule issued in December of last year effectively bans gas-powered
▶ 0:23:35water heaters in homes by increasing their price by several hundred another Biden energy regulation issued in December forces Appliance manufacturers to comply with owner rules that slow down the washing time for dishwashers from an hour to less or less to more than two hours uh last October the EPA issued a final rule that dramatically raised the cost of repairing commercial and residential air conditioning units so you have several examples where uh hardworking men and women struggling to make
▶ 0:24:05ends meat struggling to put food on the table afford a dishwasher afford an air conditioner um afford a gas powered water heater are going to find those products Out Of Reach because of these regulations imposed by the bid Administration and so uh it is important that Congress be able to respond uh that this Congress be able to respond quickly and make sure that we stand up for uh the hardworking men and women of this country who we are elected to represent
▶ 0:24:35and stand up against the onerous bureaucratic uh well the onerous bureaucratic regulations put forward by the last Administration so well well thank you very much representative Klein look I I think that the real scam here was the Biden Administration shoving through more than a trillion dollars worth of rules and regulations in the very final days uh hoping and that the American people weren't paying attention and didn't see what they were doing uh but for four years the American people were paying attention and they spoke in
▶ 0:25:05November and they made a real course correction and change uh this legislation will allow House Republicans to surgically pursue and eliminate the last ditch efforts of a failed Administration to oppose its left-wing agenda on the American people in a permanent fashion I look forward to supporting this bill on the house floor and I hope anyone who claims to care about transparency will do the same and with that I yield back gentleman Ys back now recognize Miss scanland for her time questions thank you um you know this is not
▶ 0:25:36the first time we've seen hr77 the midnight rules Relief act um it's been a go-to republican messaging bill for I think 15 years in that whole time Republicans have never been able to pass it into law because it's bad policy and lazy legislating Congress already has multiple procedures by which it can block or undo regulatory action Congress can pass laws with more specificity Congress can participate in the rulemaking
▶ 0:26:06process or resin specific reg regulations using the Congressional review act it's worth noting that this bill is specifically mentioned on project on in Project 2025 on page 50 in a chapter authored by the new director of om Russ vote who likes it because it would make it easier to dismantle our existing regulatory framework in order to replace it with the deeply unpopular project 2025 right-wing policies but the hypocrisy
▶ 0:26:37here is striking you can't say this law is necessary to prevent executive overreach when at this very moment the Trump Administration is engaged in the most egregious illegal and unconstitutional overreach in our nation's history congress with both houses under the control of the Republican party is doing nothing nothing nothing while Elon Musk and his merry band of whatever they are and other Trump appointees are rumaging through
▶ 0:27:07Americans private information and National Security Secrets shuttering agencies that Congress has established and funded to serve the American people and firing federal workers particularly the Watchdogs in violation of federal law you know Trump can't legally withhold congressionally appropriated funds and Elon Musk an unelected private individual with huge conflicts of interest cannot cut or redirect how congressionally appropriated funds are
▶ 0:27:37spent you can't have it both ways claiming to need more tools to overturn regulations and laws implemented by a democratic Administration but being unwilling to confront blatantly illegal conduct just because it's Trump and the project 2025 gang don't you think Congress made maybe should be focusing its energies on bipartisan bills that actually help say lower costs for the American people or have a chance at becoming law or
▶ 0:28:07maybe Congress should be focused on doing its main responsibility Appropriations a budget for the 2025 fiscal year which started months ago Republicans should come to the negotiating table to get a deal on Government funding before the government runs out of money in mid-march and working together to reassert congress's core article one authorities for all their talk about the Constitution Congressional Republicans have abdicated congress's core constitutional
▶ 0:28:38responsibility for lawmaking for Appropriations and seem happy to sit by while musk and gang shut down core parts of the federal government so there's no way around it um because their guys in the White House Republicans don't seem to have a problem with executive overreach and seem to be willingly relinquishing congress's status as a co-equal branch of government so um you know we've talked many times in the past both at the Judiciary Committee
▶ 0:29:08and in this body about why this is bad policy and a bad bill and when there's so many other important things on the table right now seems like a real uh waste of congress's time to be running through this one again Mr Raskin did you have something you wanted to add well thank you Miss Ken I mean it is a terrible waste of time obviously but let's take it on its own terms okay um here are the rules that were passed in the last several months
▶ 0:29:38of the last Administration okay um removing lead from drinking water making cell phones compatible with hearing aids for older people creating safety standards for infant bath seats implementing the National Suicide Prevention Hotline and prohibition of sale of tobacco products to persons under 21 okay so let's say you thought all of that was a great idea but you really think that um people under 21 should be able to buy tobacco products
▶ 0:30:09so you want to vote to overturn that one but you want to vote to uphold all of these other ones you would have to choose you would have to violate your conscience or your belief in one case or another say you wanted to really get LED out of drinking water but you also wanted to allow 19-year-olds to smoke what would you do you see I thought that was the freedom caucuses whole point and chairman Griffith I accept your invitation to come to the freedom caucus I would love nothing more than to come and to debate this uh
▶ 0:30:39and to talk about this issue um if I mean if if it was meant sincerely it wasn't an invitation to come it was an invitation to join since you now see the wisdom of the freedom caucus oh so well I've discerned the wisdom of the freedom caucus in many cases um and uh I don't get to check it out once before I join can I come for one meeting and have a discussion about this and then make my decision um but in any event uh look regardless of whether you consider yourself right left Center libertarian authoritarian
▶ 0:31:10whatever you are you could be on the Steve Bannon side of the Republican party and think that Elon Musk is a truly evil individual as he said or you could be on the Elon Musk side and you believe in a techno State replacing America's Constitution whatever side you're on this is very poor legislation is the opposite opposite of what the freedom caucus has been fighting for it's the opposite of what any of us should want we should vote on one subject at a time and I come from a state that takes that very seriously which is why I was drawn to what I thought
▶ 0:31:40uh you know the the original position was of the author of legislation thank you and and I do think it is worth um looking at some of the regulations at risk here I mean the one about allowing consumers to unsubscribe from a as easily as they can subscribe to it that's one of the recent regulations which um is wildly popular particularly in my household our constituents should know how we're voting on that right and not say oh well
▶ 0:32:11I I had to vote against that because I wanted to vote against some other completely unrelated Bill well I'm sorry Mr Roy and Mr Massie aren't here because I know they are huge advocates for what you were just speaking of and just having single subject bills to to address so uh thank you for your input and I yield back G lady yields back now recognize Mr Scott for his time for questions Mr chairman I don't have a whole lot of questions I'll just tell you this the American citizens are sick and tired of unelected bureaucrats in
▶ 0:32:41Washington DC telling them how to live their lives and uh any of these major rules should have to come back before the committee of jurisdiction where they could be approved or rejected by The People's representatives um I plan to vote for the bill and uh with that I yield the remainder of my time I thank the gentleman now recognize Mr Deus for his uh time to question I thank the chairman uh thank you to the ranking member Mr Klein both of you for being
▶ 0:33:11here and for testifying on this bill most of my questions are going to be for you uh Mr Klein whom I consider a friend but of course as uh you can probably gather on opposite sides of this particular piece of legislation I'm trying to understand the urgency behind this particular bill I mean you've articulated that it's important clearly you all have prioritized it in terms of getting this done early in the Congress what why is this such an urgent matter well part of it is in response to
▶ 0:33:42the uh over 1,000 regulations that were issued by the outgoing Administration within the final months of the administration got it okay so I guess given that here here's my question we've been in Congress we've been in session in 2 for 37 Days sound about right sworn in into Congress on January 3rd right how many disapproval resolutions have Republicans brought to the floor of the house so far I think that there are several in the pipeline but I don't know of any the answer is zero
▶ 0:34:12House Republicans have brought none you you mentioned there are a thousand regulations that the Biden Administration promulgated last year you're really concerned about them as are my colleagues on the house you've endeavored to put not a single disapproval resolution on the floor in the first 37 days do you know how many have been considered by committee I would love to be a majority leader and and put them on the floor as oh well I can tell you I with respect to that particular question it's an easy answer zero no committee has considered a single disapproval resolution of a single rule
▶ 0:34:43the house as a body has not considered a single disapproval resolution thus far in the 119th Congress apparently this is a top priority of House Republicans you are here to ask members to approve a bill that would allow us to disapprove of rules in Mass Omnibus fashion thousands of pages to be considered in a single vote and yet House Republicans can't find their way to putting a single disapproval resolution on the floor
▶ 0:35:13I I don't understand it you care to indulge me I I would say that there are several that have been introduced and that are moving through the process why not do one why why not put one on the floor before you bring this bill why not try the current system I mean apparently I thought the argument here was that there's so many different rules that you all are so eager to disapprove of and you don't have time to be able to disapprove of all of them uh in the you know during the pendency of the 119th Congress so you want to change the rules so that you consider them on
▶ 0:35:43an Omnibus or in an Omnibus way I I don't get it but anyway I I mean I I I think I've I've probably belied the point on that front uh you made reference to a variety of the different rules that you disagree with and I thought that my colleague from Pennsylvania and the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee articulated in my view the reasons why so many of those rules ultimately Aur to the benefit of American families and American businesses of course I'm sure you're familiar with the cfpb's
▶ 0:36:14overdraft rule are you familiar with that I am yep so this is a rule that the cfpb promulgated published after open comment uh to limit overdraft fees for cons consumers correct that's my understanding right and by most empirical accounts it will save Americans $5 billion over $200 for every American household every year in overdraft fees Working Families who
▶ 0:36:45ultimately would have money in their pocket by virtue of this rule that was issued by the cfpb and this is the type of rule that you seek to disapprove of on an Omnibus basis right I would take issue with that I think that we would be selective in which regulations we were seeking to do you agree with this rule I don't have a position on the rule uh that you mentioned but uh the three that I mentioned before would easily be taken up by the committee of jurisdiction which is the same committee the same issue
▶ 0:37:15all dealing with Appliance regulations and could be put out and you're not dealing with uh a multiple multiple different areas of jurisdiction you're dealing with three regulations uh would help to to reject them would consumers one question I guess Mr Klein maybe this is a bit esoteric I presume that you believe passionately in the CRA and
▶ 0:37:45the disapproval mechanism because it enables Congress to weigh in on a particular Rule and ultimately if that resolution is successful to end enforcement or implementation of that rule is that a fair assessment of your position it is okay so what happens when an agency just supon to not enforce or Implement any rule whatsoever why
▶ 0:38:15is the disapproval necessary well it would depend on the agency the regulation and let me give you a real example the CF PB has 2,000 employees right the Trump Administration directed all employees to stop work this is they issued an order quote not perform any work tasks this week
▶ 0:38:46they have in effect shut down the cfpb they have shuttered the headquarters none of the rules that the cfpb promulgated last year are presumably being enforced right now because the agency has decided or the Administration has decided unlawfully I might add and I believe ultimately will be Vindicated in the courts to on their own unilaterally say that the agency is done doing any work I mean is that do you understand why this seems like a bit of The Twilight Zone to me that we're debating congress's ability to disapprove
▶ 0:39:17rules when the Trump Administration is shuttering agencies without any input from Congress well my understanding is that administrator VA has instructed employees to work from home and that for the week uh they are paused um during that time but uh what what do you mean by paed I I am quoting the administrator but no but I'm trying to understand what paused means what do you mean as as you said not performing any of their tasks I got it so 2,000 employees who
▶ 0:39:47are being paid have just been told to stop all work don't come in the office don't send any emails don't make any phone calls this is your effort at unrooting government fraud and waste and abuse to have thousands of employees who are directed to do nothing but receive a paycheck th explain this to me or to the American this the result of of years of uh Democratic Congressional leadership mismanaging uh
▶ 0:40:17the authority of the executive branch and essentially giving away congress's authority to legislate to the executive branch to essentially through promulgation of regul ations run the government and so what this institution is seeking to do is to regain its authority to legislate and to actually uh for lack of a better term make article one great again Mr Clyde this resolution would in effect be a dead letter the Trump
▶ 0:40:47Administration is taking your Authority because you gave it away okay so so it's democrat's fault that Republicans have decided and the Trump Administration to unilaterally tell workers Within These federal agencies to cease all work I I might just say because I again I have great respect for you Mr Klein uming the the precedents that are being set right now are deeply dangerous deeply
▶ 0:41:17dangerous and I I worry that my colleagues on other side of the aisle I don't know if it is a from a a failure of of lack of imagination to kind of understand the consequences of these steps that you're taking if the president of the United States via their om director can effectively tell agencies in any employee in our federal government to cease all work on a whim that's the new standard that's really what you you're comfortable with a a future president a Democratic
▶ 0:41:47president retaining that Authority and saying yeah it's up to me I through my om director I can have them send an email it doesn't matter if it's 100 employees or 100,000 employees I can shut down every single piece of work that they are doing whether or not it's been authorized by the article one branch that's your position we want Congress to be able to speak to the regulations being issued by the executive branch regardless of who's charge well this is a far cry from that uh in my humble view I I would recky
▶ 0:42:18member if he would like to expound on that I don't know if he you um Mr nuse thank you for those trenchant observations uh it's it's also significant that you rais the overdraft regulation because I've not heard our colleagues be willing to criticize uh a single one of the rules that would be thrown in other than uh Mr Klein's suggestion of the three which were all in one committee I'm wondering one is is he suggesting that this
▶ 0:42:48legislation be narrowed to do it subject matter by committee that they could be bunched by committee which would be obviously a vast Improvement it's unnecessary but be vast improvement over this you know terrible popery conglomeration of bringing regulations in from different places but the cfpb which is now under attack which has essentially been shut down defao by Elon Musk saves Americans $15 billion a year it
▶ 0:43:19got consumers 17.5 billion back since 2011 so they're shutting down the agencies that help the American people the EPA gives us clean air and clean water the nlrb and the labor department which have been targeted are defending the right to organize into a union and to collectively bargain the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau protects all of us against ripoff practices by Banks
▶ 0:43:49and so on and it's not enough for Elon Musk to arrogate to himself the unilateral power which belongs to Congress and shut down agencies that we've created and that we've appropriated funds for that's not enough our colleagues here have to say and we want to make it easier for us to overturn all of the rules that have been adopted in the last Administration and we don't want anybody to know specifically what we're voting on so we'll throw them into one huge stew pot so nobody knows and then
▶ 0:44:19you know if look if I were voting to overturn a regulation removing lead from drinking water or if I were voting to strip a regulation which creates safety standards for infant seats and bathtubs I wouldn't want anybody to know about it either I would try to hide it and lose it in a crowd of other regulations but I think that's a disgraceful way for us to legislate and it's something which I thought that uh liberals and conservatives right and left agreed upon we should vote
▶ 0:44:49on one thing at a time I couldn't agree more I want to yield a moment to the gentlewoman from Pennsylvania well if I wouldn't remind folks we're trying to adhere to to 5 minutes as best we can and we're already at almost 12 in fact Mr chair I just want to say that some of us use a fraction of our time and there's four of us and nine of you so just I appreciate that and so it is I just had one quick question for Mr Raskin I know um our friend has
▶ 0:45:20said that this law is necessary for Congress to reclaim its Authority with respect to lawmaking Etc but couldn't Congress right now pass laws that would reclaim that Authority which could overturn regulations that are not agreed to that um or or narrow the the um rulemaking Authority that had been uh given to the the executive yeah obviously I mean the the claim that Congress needs to do that
▶ 0:45:50to reclaim our Authority is an irrelevant rhetorical distraction because we already have thatth Authority with respect to specific regulations and of course we can legislate whenever we want I mean our friends control the house the Senate and the White House if they want to overturn uh a safe drinking water regulation they can just go ahead and do it or if they want to use the CRA they can do it one at a time but this is an effort basically to say all right everybody let's suck it up hold our breath and
▶ 0:46:20jump into the deep end of the pool together because we're going to overturn all of these regulations that the public wants and depends on at once and if Congress similarly doesn't think there are enough regulations in certain areas such as who can go trolling through Americans data in the treasury Department or the labor department or anywhere else if it says you have to if if Congress thought it was necessary to keep Mr musk and his uh crew out of people's private data and out of his competitor's data
▶ 0:46:50Congress could pass that law if the Republicans agreed right Congress should pass that law and in fact one regul that would be overturned conceivably in this Omnibus monstrous package is called preventing access to us sensitive personal data and government related data by countries of concern so if we're afraid that our private data could be leaked out including to foreign countries that's something that's actually covered by one of the rules that could be targeted by this approach
▶ 0:47:20I appreciate that I yield back to Mr ngus and I yield back gentleman yields back now recognizes Mr Jack for his time well thank you very much Mr chairman um if I can ask my uh distinguished colleague from Virginia Mr kleene uh just a question to help me better understand uh this piece of legislation so and Miss fishbach talked about the time limits earlier but just so I understand at present the Congressional review act enables us to have 60 days from uh the publishing of a rule to to potentially disapprove of
▶ 0:47:51it as a body and hr77 does it allow uh us to consider something within in the last year is at 365 days or is it any um is it any time period I think the gentleman first question if those rules are regulations are issued within the last year of an Administration uh they can be acted on under the current 60-day requirement under the CRA got it and if I can ask just ballpark how how many regulations does
▶ 0:48:21uh does an Administration publish in a a calendar year oh hundreds thousands tens of thousands tens of thousands think so in effect this bill just to help me understand it it would make it more efficient for us to address those tens of thousands of regulations um and it would frankly empower the committee chairs and the committee members the members of our body to rectify some of these challenges at the committee level and then it rises up into to one package for us to act on efficiently on the floor is that
▶ 0:48:51right yes nothing in this uh legislation would restrict currently the ability of of Committees of jurisdiction to bundle together these types of uh disapproval resol uh resolutions to for consideration so the Judiciary Committee could uh bundle together resolutions related to um the last administration's open border policies uh the treatment the
▶ 0:49:21the misinterpretation of um Asylum law um the the any number of issues relate under the Judiciary committee's immigration jurisdiction so well I appreciate that because I I do want to SP a little bit of time today just to highlight one specific rule that I care a lot about that directly impacts my district and I have to imagine every single one of my colleagues has a rule or some type of uh hindrance that's been imposed upon your constituents that you may want to see acted on in mass as well
▶ 0:49:51for me uh in my congressional district Georgia's third congressional district the department of energy a rule you can see it 89 fed regge 10 15,18 that effectively will put out of business highly efficient tankless water heaters which are manufactured in my district I've got uh a plant within my district that employs 550 constituents that's going to go out of business if this rule goes into effect and it's set to go into effect March 11th I'll be pursuing any legislative vehicle I can to address
▶ 0:50:21it because ultimately I got 550 constituents are going to lose their jobs if this thing goes through you mentioned this today but I just want to note that every single member of of our uh distinguished house probably has an example of this and I'm I'm hoping to get consideration of this on the floor but I certainly respect the effort of this piece of legislation to enable me to have multiple options multiple windows and multiple Avenues to address this because the end of the day I got 550 constituents that are hoping to keep their jobs they're not going to have it at this rule that was published very defition
▶ 0:50:52of a midnight rule was published on December 26th the day after Christmas I've got to address it to to help my constituents and I appreciate you bringing this legislation to the floor uh welcome any closing comments from you on that before I yield back I appreciate the gentleman's comments it's exactly what we're uh trying to enable Congress to enact on behalf of the American people to ensure that uh congress makes the laws and not unelected bureaucrats uh working uh without any accountability
▶ 0:51:22and uh hindering the ability of working men and women to either get or or work in a facility like the one that's in your District thank you thank you very much I yield back to our chairman y y's back now recognize Mr Norman for any questions he may wish to ask thank you Mr chairman um just for the record I know as my good friend on the opposite aisle mentioned some people or was criticizing president Trump's um giving pardons to let me just name I've got a whole
▶ 0:51:52I don't know I mean 30 but let me just tell you the little angels that our past president um pardon Richard tempton sentenced in 1993 in Virginia death uh in participation of a drug related killing uh third codefendant Cory Johnson was put on death put to death on January 14th in the final days uh another little angel Julius Omar Robinson sentenced in 2002 in Texas
▶ 0:52:23death of killing two men in a drug rated another little angel Ricardo Sanchez sentenced in Florida uh for the death of a killing of a family including two children well the gentleman you just for a clarification uh I will I will and just are these pardons or a commutation or death sentences I I I think these are pardons no I did are these pardons or commutations anyway
▶ 0:52:53let me just if give it'll give it'll give you the uh Daniel Troya sentenced a death and of a drug related well that was the one with the children I mean I could go on I didn't get into the drug related but you brought up they're still in jail Mr Trump Mr trumpy was sent us to life in prison he's free these guys are still in jail reclaim your time I reclaim my time look at the look at the record but you can go into the pardons that that this ex-president did um
▶ 0:53:24I'll also say that um you know y'all keep mentioning um the fact that we are having investigations Elon Musk is doing this free of charge I forget what you said he was you refer to him as an embold or something I think he's made it in the private sector pretty well and I think what he is uncovering free of charge the American people are shocked at and I hope you you y'all continue
▶ 0:53:54to protest because when American people say American people find out where their tax dollars was went this is government gone AR and the US Aid is the first one the cfpb needs to be abolished and the things that were brought up about the fees um you know they they're competitive industry with other Banks they're com you know they government shouldn't be telling them what fee to charge or not charge because they
▶ 0:54:24have to compete so I think it's interesting that's off topic but I want to bring that up uh the commutations whether it's whether it's I'm reclaiming my time I give good chance okay um and the fact that continue to get on Elon Musk the American people love what he's doing 77 million people voted for President Trump to stop this kind of abuse that's going on in this country and uh I think it'll this is just one agency uh Mr Klein
▶ 0:54:54I think president uh ex-president Biden had 146 rules uh that are going to be subject to the look back provision and I'm like Mr Jack we've got uh PE uh companies in my district a drier manufacturer 8 800 people uh very upset that gas you know that they're taking gas away from a
▶ 0:55:24being able to manufacture this is a competitive industry not government run and uh the can you hit on a few more ludicrous things that occur during the time frame that will require a look back because I I remember the gas Outlaw gas ovens I didn't know the U about the water units that they were trying to abolish but can you name just a few more that give us an example
▶ 0:55:54of what this Insanity that well consider and and uh you hit the nail on the head when you said that these are businesses um American workers American families being affected by these regulations and they're not just in the energy sector but those were where uh this green New Deal Administration uh focused its attention and you know when you talk about single purposes single purpose legislation let's talk about that inflation reduction act let's talk about
▶ 0:56:24all those Provisions uh and and how many different uh parts were in this Mammoth trillion dollar bill uh but as I said you have uh air conditioning units you have um dishwashers being overregulation gas power water heaters being overregulation um in the name of Energy Efficiency but uh what you have is instead Rising costs for American consumers um and uh these
▶ 0:56:55items being placed Out Of Reach for the people well and you know the list can go on and on I mean as far as I don't know whether it fit in the parameters that we're talking about for this legislation but the insane student loan ba bailouts the insane green new scam with the $7,500 electric vehicles government telling Americans what they need to buy for cars it's Insanity um fees on Asylum applicants
▶ 0:57:25uh over days I mean what this what the past administration has done is force these kind of actions for us to take that's going to help write the wrongs and I can give you one more the uh the tailpipe emissions rule um an effort to force Americans to abandon gas powerered cars for electric ones uh would make 50% of all new vehicles electric by 2030 uh the I mean the the imposition of those costs on the American people let me let me just say this
▶ 0:57:55to I think my friends on the on the left understand businesses operate when you have a rule that's coming down on them they invest their hard-earned dollars in capital for equipment it's not just a flip of the switch a flippant that's where uh you really needed to have been in PRI the private sector to understand how it affects uh the everyday working man which they will be the ultimate judge when when the jury's out when the jury is decisions
▶ 0:58:25made and the jury is out are they going to approve this one bill us Aid and where that money went let's let them judge it I think I think we rest our case on that I Y back thank you Mr Norman Mr Griffith you're recognized thank you very much Madam chair uh Mr Klein my my good friend uh and neighbor in Virginia um the the way I hear your bill being described is not the way I read it it sounds like all, 1400
▶ 0:58:56six regulations that are being tracked by the Judiciary Committee if I'm listening to my colleagues on the other side that if a bill were to be brought forward your bill would require all 146 be in there at one time that is not accurate is it no I say to the gentleman it's not it's allowing the Committees of jurisdiction to select which regulations would be considered together that might have the same topic or cover the same issue and
▶ 0:59:26in Switching gears a little bit I was a little surprised to hear such a mischaracterization of the single subject Rule and uh the gentleman has heard me pontificate on that rule since our days in the Virginia House of delegates together have you not yes I have and did we ever say that it was only one small issue at a time or did we say the subjects had to be related that's exactly right subjects had to be related so that's why I've never objected to an Appropriations
▶ 0:59:57Bill I've never objected to a Reconciliation Bill I've never objected to a National Defense authorization act even though they're broad the gentleman would agree with me those three those those are three areas where we consistently have very large very broad uh bills but they are a single subject would you not agree I would agree and and so what this does is this does not get rid of the single subject at all it merely says that we're taking up
▶ 1:00:27regulations that we find are inappropriately passed by the uh prior Administration and your bill would say that we can look at them it still has to be within the 60 legislative days but we can compile them together only during the last year of an any Administration is that accurate that is accurate and so then we could take them up and and if we desire to do them by by committee we could do that but we're not mandated to do
▶ 1:00:57that by this bill are we no now I'm going to go a little far field here because some people were talking about how we like the CRA and they they asked you a leading question about the Congressional review act I I I will tell you and I don't know what your opinion is I have always thought the Congressional review act did not go far enough in protecting legislative article one prerogatives because what it says is if an unelected bureaucracy enacts a regulation that Congress doesn't like we
▶ 1:01:27can't withdraw that on a mere vote of the house and the Senate a mere majority in the house and the Senate we have to not only get the majority in the house and the Senate to undo a president's action or his executive branch action we have to get the president to agree with us so therefore that limited time from the time of the inauguration of a new president which eats up before you get the old president out of here we've already eaten up a bunch of the days in the 60 legislative days
▶ 1:01:58and no president is going to say I had my team enact a regulation that I'm now going to say we did we made a mistake no president's going to do that on his way out the door so the urgency is is that we only have a limited amount of time to look at and make decisions on, 146 pieces of legislation and we don't even have the full 60 days because part of that 68 days was eaten up in the prior Administration am I not correct you are correct Madam chair I'd say that
▶ 1:02:28once that horse is out of the barn uh you you are not able to easily get it back in and so what we probably ought to be doing if we really want if my colleagues on the other side of the aisle want to join me in really giving us article one power back we will pass something that says any regulation that Congress rejects on a majority vote of the house and the Senate is automatically null and void without having to get a presidential signature that being said Madam chair you back Madam chair can I have a unanimous consent request
▶ 1:02:59I'm sorry I like to ask unanimous consent to insert the bill that we're talking about into the record because nowhere in this bill there's the same thing about single subject or single committee you could do whatever the heck you want to do under this bill there's nothing no limitations in this bill maybe my friend maybe we should read the bill before we make Mr kle you said without without objection the chairman the the gentleman May insert the text the bill The Madam chair might I respond I was responding to the arguments of my colleagues on the other
▶ 1:03:29side if it comes in and there and it appears there's not a a single subject now I would submit rolling back regulations is in fact by definition a single subject but if the gentleman wants to bring that up I would probably support something that truly made it a single subject but the amendment that was previously offered does not do that because it says it has to be the same subject and I will tell you madam chair the same subject is rolling back bad regulations Within last 60 days that's a single subject uh so I have no problem with
▶ 1:03:59that but I was just responding to arguments by the other side and showing how their arguments made no sense to me and I yield again um thank you very much Mr Griffith Miss hin you're recognized thank you madam chair uh thanks to um my colleague representative Klein for being here also to the ranking member asking I have no questions I back thank you you get the record for today okay um Mr Roy by by the way before I
▶ 1:04:29recognize Mr Roy I want to say how much I appreciate uh the arguments of Mr Griffin and I want to associate myself with your comments because this is absolutely taking back our article one Authority and I cannot understand why the Democrats constantly want to give that away Mr Roy you recognize um PR's request I will yield uh a little bit of time to my friend from South Carolina who wanted to insert something thank you Mr I just want to get back to my good
▶ 1:04:59friend Mr McGovern of the list uh 39 were fully pardoned crimes wiped from their records the second list which is even worse he communed their death row sentences he commuted the death row sentences to life in prison they're still in jail I yeld back thank you Mr i y back to M Mr Roy so a lot a lot of this has been covered and and I know we want to get to the vote of just two or three points I mean to
▶ 1:05:29my friend from Virginia and I think my other friend from Virginia Mr Griffith covered this but I mean again for the American people at home watching this like what's at play um what we're talking about is when an Administration carries out a lot of activities right through rulle making and executive action and they do that and it could happen in both parties but they do that and often the the waning days the last year of administration and they're
▶ 1:06:00out and they're making a lot of ruem and the question then becomes what can Congress do about it and this bill as I understand it would do two primary things right which is allow you to go back a year instead of 60 days into the last year of the administration in which we in which we saw in this Administration considerable activity um specific fairly sizable and significant policies such as
▶ 1:06:30the student loan forgiveness program which is tens of billions hundreds of billions of dollars significant amount of activity carried out by administrative action right not because Congress got together with the president said hey we've had these student loans and forget the fact that you've got plumbers and electricians who didn't take out said loans or other people who are entrepreneurs people who chose not to or for example my wife daughter of a single mom who is still paying off her student loans for
▶ 1:07:00both undergraduate and law school at A&M and UT in state tuition so hardly expensive relatively speaking to some schools and is still paying those off and has been has been paying those for 20 years now and the question becomes is for people who've gone out and they paid off their loans Now by executive action by by just by the mere stroke of a pen and by action of bureaucrats assembling all this boom that gets done um and then other activities which we could go into in great detail and I won't um
▶ 1:07:30whether it's H1B issues and labor which might have some disagreements on both sides of the aisle um regulations involving firearms and other things lots of regulations lots of things being done and the question here is can Congress exercise its article one Authority going back a year and then can they aggregate some of these rules to disapprove in some aggregated fashion now to the extent that there's some concern about aggregating wildly VAR topics I assume maybe we could potentially consider debating that notion but but I it seems to me that
▶ 1:08:00what you're doing is to Mr Griffith's point is you're saying there was regulatory activity by the executive branch that Congress in its decision-making would say wait a minute no we think that those ought to be stopped and that doesn't prohibit going back to the well doesn't prohibit then legislative action to fix some problem that was then created is that do I understand that right from your perspective that's correct the only other point that I would make is when we talk about the supposed
▶ 1:08:31you know horrible activities going on by Mr musk again I would point out that he's operating within an entity at the White House created by President Obama that then he's got individuals working around them to look at information as we understand it um and some of the back and forth going on with the courts right now that we will see as as we see unfolding in the back and forth and I guess now going to the Supreme Court and whatever they're going to do that we've got got uh you know their perspective is over the shoulder Authority look at stuff okay fine we'll see but the
▶ 1:09:01understanding is what are the results I think our colleagues on other side of the aisle are frustrated because of some of the things that have been exposed and you can say well it doesn't add up to that much well not maybe first of all it does add up to a lot for the average American these things add up but we're talking about things that when you start getting into for example Social Security numbers that we now know are not duped and that there's a significant amount of duplication of social secur numbers there might be some good reasons why there's still some in the system there might be others where you don't understand why might have something
▶ 1:09:31to do with non-citizens who are using Social Security numbers but whatever there's significant amount of duplication that they're now rooting through I think the vast majority of American people are looking at their government saying well it's kind of nice to have somebody with fresh eyes going through this with algorithms trying to root out a lot of the things that we in Congress have been saying we wanted to try to get access to for years from frankly both both parties in power in the executive branch um but even with just the usaid right $2 million for sex changes
▶ 1:10:01and LGBT activism in Guatemala now let me let me assume that for some reason you think that's an extraordinarily good policy I don't should we be giving $2 million to Guatemala for set activity or $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt I Egypt seems like you know a place that attracts lots of people to go there for history and look at the pyramids we got to we got to give $6 million while we're racking up two trillion in deficit spending every year
▶ 1:10:32in tourism to Egypt or uh the millions that went to the Eco Health Alliance which is neck deep in all of the research at the Wuhan lab or um how about the $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru I mean again if you think that's the most important issue in the world I disagree I think it's a problem but a comic book in Peru said well it's just $32,000 well how many just $32,000 are there how many just $2 million
▶ 1:11:02are there $70,000 for a production of a Dei musical in Ireland 70 okay it's just $70,000 just one person's salary $1.5 million to advance diversity Serbia um hundreds of thousands I I keep going on down the list the point is finding a way to expose that which we that which most of us see with our own eyes and I would assume I call the other side of the aisle there are going to be things that are funded that won't bother
▶ 1:11:33me as much by some executive action but it should bother all of us that that was funded that we didn't stipulate that and at some point that's something we ought to reclaim and like I'll listen I'll listen to the concept about whether there's something that's too aggressive and aggregating all of these but right now my response to that would be we've given so much power to the bureaucrat and the executive branch that just do this then I'm not that bothered by the chance that Congress would come together
▶ 1:12:03aggregate these and then come together on a uh as Congress and say we're going to pull those back so anyway for those reasons I I support the legislation I yield back to the chair thank you very much Mr Roy um I want to thank our Witnesses for being today uh the Witnesses are now excused the chair will be in the re in receipt of a
▶ 1:12:35motion from the gentleman from Virginia Mr Griffin okay sorry sorry okay Miss Fishback sorry that that's all right Madam chair I move the committee Grant hr77 the midnight rules Relief act a closed rule the rule waves All Points of orders against consideration of the bill the rule provides that the bill shall be considered as read the rule waves All Points of orders against
▶ 1:13:05Provisions in the bill the rule provides one hour of General debate equally divided and controlled by the chair ranking minority member of the committee on Judiciary or their respective designes finally the rule provides one motion to recommit thank you very much you've now heard the motion from Miss fishbo is there any discussion or Amendment to the rule Mr mover Madam chair just just a a couple of things I mean um again this is a closed rule I mean my friends are trying to take our
▶ 1:13:36ability away to offer amendments um and if this bill passes you'll be succeeding in taking our ability away to debate um a variety of issues um and I uh you know and I I I appreciate the selective um uh accounting by the from Texas um when when it comes to usaid um it's funny that uh no one seems to be outraged on that site over an emergency $49,000 paint job
▶ 1:14:06uh for the Secretary of Defense uh I could bring him to Home Depot I I could get a cheaper at Home Depot than what they're paying uh so um you know we we'll have a lot more to say on that but Madam chairwoman I have an amendment to the rule and move the committee make an order amendment number one to hr77 offered by representative Ras which prohibits any resolution of disapproval from addressing two or more unrelated subjects Madame chairwoman we heard persistently from some of our Republican friends about the importance of having bills that
▶ 1:14:36address a single subject you all could not stop talking about how bills with unrelated matters are the antithesis of good legislating and yet here we are today with this bill that would allow you to include in a single Bill any and all unrelated regulations you choose no matter what committee they may be under the jurisdiction of well this amendment will prevent that so you can either vote for this amendment to dispel any question on your hypocrisy or you
▶ 1:15:06can vote against it uh and affirm your hypocritical position on legislating and I urge a yes vote on my Amendment and I yield back the balance of my time um thank you Mr McGovern thanks for characterizing what kind of people we are uh uh is there any further a discussion on the amendment hearing none the question is on the amendment those in favor signify by saying I I those oppos no no in the opinion
▶ 1:15:37chair the no have like a roll call on that Madam chair MCG request a roll call the clerk will call the roll Mrs fishbach no Mrs fishbach no Mr Norman no Mr Norman no Mr Roy no Mr Roy no Mrs hin no Mrs hin no Mr Langworthy no Mr Langworthy no Mr Scott no Mr Scott no Mr Griffith no Mr Griffith no Mr Jack no Mr Jack no Mr McGovern I Mr McGovern I miss ganin I miss ganin I Mr nus Miss leer Fernandez Madam chair no
▶ 1:16:07Madam no the clerk the clerk will report the toes two yays nine Nays through you done okay the amendment is not agreed to um are there any further okay then hearing no further discussion the
▶ 1:16:37question is on the motion from the gentoman from Minnesota all those in favor signify by saying I I those opposed say no no in the opinion of chair the eyes have it the motion is call Madam chair Mr mcgoverin requests roll call vote R clerk will call the rooll Mrs fishbach I Mrs fishbach I Mr Norman Mr Norman I Mr Roy I Mr Roy I Mrs hin I Mrs hin
▶ 1:17:07I Mr Langworthy I Mr Langworthy I Mr Scott I Mr Scott I Mr Griffith I Mr Griffith I Mr Jack I Mr Jack i m Mr McGovern no Mr McGovern no Miss ganin Miss ganin no Mr nus Miss lger Fernandez Madam chair I Adam chair I the clerk will reports a total nine Ys two Nays and the eyes have it the motion to reports agree to accordingly Miss fishbach will be managing this amendment for the majority and I will do it for the
▶ 1:17:37minority and Mr mcgoverin will do it for the minority without objection the committee is
▶ 1:18:23e for