Strengthening American Leadership in Wireless Technology

Commerce, Space, and Science NominationsHouse Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology · 2025-01-23 · 119th Congress
The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology held its first hearing of the 119th Congress to examine spectrum policy, the lapsed FCC spectrum auction authority, and how licensed, unlicensed, and shared spectrum can sustain US leadership in wireless technology against China. Begins at 0:00:08
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Title

Spectrum auction authority, wireless leadership, and competition with China

Purpose

The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology held its first hearing of the 119th Congress to examine spectrum policy, the lapsed FCC spectrum auction authority, and how licensed, unlicensed, and shared spectrum can sustain US leadership in wireless technology against China. Four witnesses testified on Wi-Fi, 5G, Open RAN, and public-interest spectrum policy, while members debated whether future auction proceeds should fund programs like Next Generation 911 or offset tax cuts. Begins at0:00:08

Who spoke

Chairman Richard Hudson (R-NC)0:00:08: Opened the hearing citing salt typhoon as possibly the largest Chinese-backed telecom hack in US history0:04:41 and called for reauthorizing FCC auction authority and advancing Open RAN0:03:400:05:11; later pressed witnesses on unlicensed spectrum demand and AI bandwidth needs0:40:410:42:03.

Rep. Doris Matsui (D-CA), Ranking Member0:05:42: Noted the FCC auction authority lapsed nearly two years ago0:06:12 and warned against using auction proceeds for "tax cuts for the wealthy" instead of the digital divide and NG9110:07:43; highlighted the Biden administration's National Spectrum Strategy0:08:44.

Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-KY), Full Committee Chairman0:10:15: Called for reauthorizing FCC spectrum authority as a "first step" and outlined reallocating unused federal spectrum0:11:46.

Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA), Vice Chairman0:12:16: Described Hurricane Helene's damage to Georgia's communications infrastructure and the role of satellite backup systems0:13:16.

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ), Full Committee Ranking Member0:14:47: Said spectrum auctions have raised over $230 billion for the federal government0:16:17 and criticized reported Republican plans to use auction proceeds for tax breaks rather than NG9110:14:470:17:48; bid farewell to departing committee counsel Jennifer Nofziger0:18:49.

Michael Powell, President & CEO, NCTA0:20:52: Testified Wi-Fi carries nearly 60% of world data traffic and 80-90% of smartphone data0:22:540:23:24; said clearing the lower 3 GHz band for exclusive use would take 20 years and cost $1 billion0:24:54; later described CBRS's 228 license winners and its use by Howard University, Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, and Newark airport1:39:342:15:542:46:40.

Brad Gillen, EVP, CTIA0:26:24: Said the wireless industry needs roughly 400 more MHz of spectrum by 2027 and over 800 MHz by 20290:28:56; said China will have four times more midband spectrum than the US by 20270:29:56; cited a new NERA study estimating 1.5 million jobs created per 100 MHz of midband spectrum released0:30:26.

Diane Rinaldo, Executive Director, Open RAN Policy Coalition0:30:56: Said Open RAN has achieved over 100 global deployments including Boost Mobile's 100% Open RAN network0:32:27; said as NTIA administrator she sent agencies a 2019 memo on spectrum needs still unresolved in 20250:43:33; recommended amending Export-Import Bank risk caps to fund telecom projects competing against Huawei/ZTE2:27:00.

Chris Lewis, President & CEO, Public Knowledge0:35:59: Said Wi-Fi carries 53% of internet traffic and nearly 90% of wireless internet traffic0:38:00; opposed using spectrum proceeds for tax cuts0:55:39 and urged funding NG911 and digital-inclusion programs instead1:09:17.

Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL)2:29:31: Asked why the bipartisan Spectrum Auction Reauthorization Act never reached the floor and cited Florida's new AI-based emergency alert tool BEACON2:33:02.

Rep. Raul Ruiz (D-CA)1:15:19: Described a January 10, 2025 911 outage in the Coachella Valley affecting AT&T and Frontier customers1:18:21.

Rep. Buddy Carter (R-GA)2:12:53: Highlighted Marine Corps use of CBRS spectrum in Albany, Georgia and his American Broadband Deployment Act on permitting2:15:542:16:24.

Rep. Kat Cammack (R-FL)2:24:08: Pushed back on characterizing extension of 2017 tax cuts as "tax cuts for billionaires."

Rep. Jay Obernolte (R-CA) — referenced by name by other members regarding spectrum physics, though not directly quoted speaking at length.

Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL)1:20:22: Asked about post-auction agency meddling and permitting delays after hurricanes and wildfires1:21:231:22:24.

Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA)1:25:56: Discussed Qualcomm and the IIJA-directed DOD study (IMERS) on the lower 3 GHz band1:28:27.

Rep. Neal Dunn (R-FL)1:30:58: Quoted FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's statement that the first Trump administration freed roughly 6,000 MHz of licensed spectrum1:31:28.

Rep. Robin Kelly (D-IL)1:36:02: Asked about directing auction revenue to HBCUs and MSIs, referencing prior bipartisan spectrum bills1:36:32.

Rep. John Joyce (R-PA)1:41:35: Asked about growth from unlicensed/shared spectrum and DOD's use of 3.45-3.55 GHz auction proceeds1:44:37.

Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove (D-CA) — not present by this name; (transcript shows Rep. Kamlager-style questioner as "Miss Kamik")2:23:58: Defended tax-cut extension framing and asked Rinaldo about oversight gaps and interagency stalemates2:25:59.

Rep. Julie Fedorchak (R-ND)2:58:15: Asked about the proper mix of licensed vs. unlicensed spectrum allocation3:01:17.

Rep. Russell Fry (R-SC)2:34:32: Asked about consequences of China leading in 5G spectrum availability2:35:03.

Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA)3:03:18: Asked about safeguards for national security infrastructure under shared spectrum models and pressed for reauthorization of the Cybersecurity Act of 20153:07:20.

Rep. Jonathan Jackson / other members (Menendez, McClellan, Landsman, Kean, Goldman, Baragon, Bilirakis, Kiggans/Houchin-style questioners) asked variations on auction authority, NG911 funding, and digital-inclusion themes without introducing new named facts beyond those captured above.

Key moments

Chairman Hudson said Congress allowed FCC spectrum auction authority to lapse for the first time in history, with past auctions raising over $80 billion0:03:090:03:40.

Powell testified clearing the lower 3 GHz band for exclusive federal use would take 20 years and cost $1 billion, making shared spectrum models like CBRS the preferred solution0:24:540:25:24.

Gillen presented data showing wireless traffic nearly doubled in two years to 100 trillion megabits, with a need for ~400 MHz more spectrum by 2027 and 800 MHz by 2029, while the federal government holds roughly two-thirds of midband spectrum0:27:550:28:560:29:26.

Sharp partisan divide: Pallone and Matsui warned Republicans might use spectrum auction proceeds to fund tax cuts for "billionaires and large wealthy corporations" rather than NG9110:14:470:07:43, while Rep. Cammack and others called this framing a "hyperarch" mischaracterization of the 2017 tax law's extension2:24:08.

Powell disclosed that the DOD's own IMERS report concluded spectrum sharing in the lower 3 GHz band was feasible, but the recommendation was "restudied" by NTIA after opposition from the wireless industry1:29:57.

Gillen said China will hold four times more midband spectrum than the US by 2027, and cited 14 times more 5G-connected factories in China than in the US1:07:462:14:23.

Rinaldo said the DOD's 5G/future-G office budget "continues to be cut in half," limiting 5G deployment at US bases worldwide0:48:062:28:00.

Rep. Ruiz described a January 10, 2025 911 outage in Cathedral City and Indio, California, where AT&T and Frontier customers could not reach emergency services for hours1:18:21.

Gillen said the 2020-21 auction of 100 MHz in the 3.45 GHz band raised $22 billion, with DOD relocation costs estimated over $13 billion but less than $300 million spent to date1:44:07.

Powell and Gillen testified 80-90% of smartphone data traffic and roughly 60% of all internet traffic travel over Wi-Fi rather than cellular networks0:23:243:02:04.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-01-23
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Michael Powell — President & CEO, NCTA-The Internet and Television Association
Brad Gillen — Executive Vice President, CTIA
Diane Rinaldo — Executive Director, Open RAN Policy Coalition
Chris Lewis — President & CEO, Public Knowledge
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Transcript373 caption blocks · 32,438 words · 3:08:13 runtime
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