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▶ 0:16:38all right we were waiting for you Glenn okay we were waiting for you we can start now okay the committee will please come to order a quorum is present with that objection the chair is authorized to declare a recess at any time pursuant to committee rule 5V and house rule 11 Clause 2 the chair May postpone further
▶ 0:17:08proceedings today on the question of approving any measure or matter or adopting an amendment on which a recorded Vote or the Y and nays are ordered now pursuant to notice I call up the committee on oversight and government reforms authorization and oversight plan for the 119th Congress the clerk will report the plan which has been distributed in advance the committee on oversight and government reforms authorization and oversight plan for the 119th Congress I ask damous consent that the plan be considered as read and open for Amendment at any point
▶ 0:17:39without objection so order the chair recognizes himself to offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute the clerk will please report the amendment an amendment in the nature of a substitute to the committee's authorization and oversight plan is offered by Mr comr of Kentucky without objection the amendment is considered as read and the substitute will be considered as original text for the purposes of further amendment I now recognize myself for 5 minutes for a statement on the ANS good afternoon we're here today to approve the committee's authorization and oversight plan the rules requires to mark up and submit this plan at the beginning of each new
▶ 0:18:09Congress last Congress on February 28th 2023 the committee's oversight plan was adopted by Voice vote after the Democrats worked with me to finalize the plan in fact I accepted some suggestions from the previous ranking member last Congress because of this and Mr Conley's past efforts to forge bipartisan consensus I was hopeful that our oversight plan for the next two years would once again be a bipartisan work product this Congress in an effort to facilitate a productive conversation we shared a draft
▶ 0:18:39of the plan with the Democrats one week ago we also offered to discuss any questions or legitimate additions the Democrats had our Hope was that ranking member would meet us at the table uh but we didn't hear anything back then this week we offered to add in their minority views to the plan this offer would allow the ranking member to have his voice heard and contribute to the plan but unfortunately they declin instead of working together the de the Democrats informed us that they have amendments to the plan but are refusing to discuss them with me in advance
▶ 0:19:09they kept any changes they wanted a secret Democrats have rejected every opportunity I offered to contribute to the oversight plan so how am I supposed to incorporate secret opinions that they refuse to share you may be asking yourself why would the Democrats do that Democrats say they want to participate in oversight but if that were true true why would they decline multiple opportunities to actually engage in the plan for that oversight because they don't want to participate they want a Stonewall and engage in theater in fact
▶ 0:19:40they say they were sticking to their original plan today so whatever you all hear from the minority day just know it was their plan all along was their plan to distract from the committee's mission was their plan to delay a hearing on rooting out waste Fraud and Abuse it was their plan to obstruct the operations of this committee the the minority made this clear with they previously stated that they had zero interest in working with me Republicans on this committee to help them with any as it relates to Doge no interest in working together to root out waste Fraud
▶ 0:20:10and Abuse instead of legislating and conducting actual oversight the Democrats are more interested in disruption and spectacle their actions speak louder than their empty words they want to pretend that they're trying to fight to put their words in the oversight plan but I already gave them two opportunities to work with me to do that and they rejected both of those J I'd like to list the range of important topics that the Democrats have declined to participate in working together on in the authorization oversight plan that I have submitted for the 119th Congress this year's
▶ 0:20:40plan includes sections for laps in expiring authorizations preventing waste fraud abuse and mismanagement in federal programs the federal Workforce Federal Regulations the government accountability office inspector's General GSA Real Property disposal whistleblower protection ction federal financial management Government Contracting Grant reform cyber security and data Privacy Information Technology and Management Open government and transparency
▶ 0:21:10the United States Postal Service oversight of the District of Colombia National Archives and federal Records Office of government ethics and the federal Disaster Response and Recovery those are a lot of important topics that Democrats apparently don't consider worth their time they would rather hear themselves talk about President Trump and the evil Elon Musk than work together on actual oversight that the American people are demanding and news flash to the Democrats according
▶ 0:21:40to a new poll released this week the American people overwhelmingly support the work president Trump and Doge are doing and the hypocrisy is that the longer they pacificate today the longer they delay the start of an important hearing with the government accountability office on federal government program at a high risk of fraud waste abuse and improper payments so I would urge my friend the ranking member to ask his Democrat colleagues to stop with the spectacle and pretense and actually
▶ 0:22:10come to the table to work on oversight I urge my colleagues to vote Yes on this comprehensive plan for oversight with that I yield to ranking member Conley for his uh for his opening statement thank you Mr chairman and I must say uh it's a bit much being lectured about from uh from the Republican majority that chased every rabbit hole on impeachment of Joe Biden and suddenly we're the ones who are you know obsessed with the president of the United States
▶ 0:22:41today we're considering the committee's authorization and oversight plan for the 119th Congress at its core this document should serve as a roadmap for the committee's work an articulation of our constitutional responsibilities and a demonstration of our unwavering commitment to accountability transparency and good governance but what has been presented by the chairman on behalf of the Republican majority is not as serious or comprehensive plan for Congressional oversight rather it is exhibit a of the
▶ 0:23:11majority's unilateral Retreat from article one of the Constitution and their duty to conduct meaningful oversight of the executive branch particularly when that executive branch is led by a part president of their own party the sins of omission in this plan are damning it is as if this committee which should serve as a proud Sentinel of accountability has chosen to Dawn blinders shielding itself from the very real abuses of power we've witnessed during the first month alone
▶ 0:23:41of this Administration that's why I intend to offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute which would more clearly identify the Urgent oversight priorities that ought to be before this committee my Amendment would restore the committee's proper role as a watchdog not a lap dog it would ensure the committee investigates urgent matters that sit at the heart of its legislative and oversight jurisdiction issues the majority's plan ignores conveniently among the many crises demanding our attention
▶ 0:24:12we must examine president Trump's Infamous Friday night Massacre of 17 inspectors General across 18 agencies and departments a blatant effort to purge the federal government of its independent overseers and lower a veil of Darkness to conceal potential and Corruption sure to follow this committee must re investigate the Trump administration's Purge of nonpartisan civil servants which will have catastrophic results for the American people who rely on government every
▶ 0:24:42day for services and benefits all across this country the Administration has engaged in a rapid and sweeping effort to purge the federal Workforce through Mass terminations of new or recently transferred employees scam resignation offers efforts to replace career professionals with partisan loyalists attempts to eliminate entire agencies without Congressional approval and general threats of mass firings based on arbitrary decrees from Elon Musk the administration's
▶ 0:25:12concerted attacks on federal employees risk grinding the essential functions of our government to a halt and when they do it's going to be the American people who suffer the most glaring example of which the Republican majority has abandoned article one duties of Congress and the administ is the administration's unconstitutional empowerment of congressionally appropriated funds whether the attempted elimination of entire agencies established in statute such as usaid and the Consumer Financial
▶ 0:25:42Protection Bureau or the administration's disastrous Federal funding freeze the administration's empowerment broadside against Congressional Authority cannot be ignored by this committee and ought to be part of our work plan congress not the executive branch has the Constitutional power of the purse that's been reaffirmed by the GAO the Department of Justice the Supreme Court time and time again at the center of many of these crises that scream up for congressional oversight sits Elon Musk the world's richest
▶ 0:26:13man who gave president Trump and Congressional Republicans nearly $300 million in campaign donations last year in return Mr musk received the Reigns of exactly one United States federal government Mr musk and the so-called Doge have since gone on a rampage they've inflicted their brand of cruel and I mean cruel and arbitrary Chaos on our government by targeting agencies for elimination with outright lies infiltrating sensitive Federal payment and taxpayer
▶ 0:26:43Data Systems and bypassing Congressional authority to promote Mr musk financial and political interests Mr musk and Doge have shielded themselves from critical oversight mechanisms silenced career public servants who dare to question their actions and hastily develop false savings metrics to justify their dubious actions their Reckless and self-serving agenda has left agencies in disarray eroded public trust and placed essential government functions at risk all under the guise of so-called
▶ 0:27:13efficiency president Trump and Mr musk do not have a mandate to do what they're doing president Trump did not even win a majority of the popular vote much less a mandate and Mr musk is an unelected billionaire the approval ratings are falling faster than the stock market for what he's up to and my Republican colleagues are getting an earful back home from constituents who are fed up with the Wrecking Ball approach that's destroying their government if my colleagues think it's bad now just wait until the American people start to hear what Republicans are
▶ 0:27:43willing to cut in order to deliver tax cuts for billionaires the majority may have no interest in oversight of the executive branch but the American people do they expect this committee to do its job they expect us to provide a check on EX itive overreach to expose corruption and self-dealing wherever we find it to safeguard the institutions that uphold our democracy and above all being bring transparency and accountability to this government if the majority continues to abdicate its Duty
▶ 0:28:13that's their choice but let the record reflect today that we had an opportunity to be responsive to an American public calling out for more not less accountability and oversight Democrats are answering that call in the past month we pursued nearly two dozen inves instigations of the administration made more than a 100 related requests for information and documents and exposed the systemic abuses conflicts of interest and unlawful actions that have become unfortunately a Hallmark of this Administration our work has shed light in the administration's
▶ 0:28:44attempt to silence independent oversight and conceal critical public records and erode safeguards that protect taxpayer dollars and we're just getting started with that Mr chairman I look forward to moving my Amendment at the appropriate time do any other members wish to be heard uh T recognize Mr Men go ahead you're recognized one minute one minute or five minutes
▶ 0:29:14five minutes okay uh thank you Mr chair uh ranking member Connelly appreciate the opportunity to speak on the committee's authorization and oversight plan our investigation and oversight of course are fundamental responsibilities of Congress and as the committee on oversight and government reform uh we should be exercising these powers to fulfill our constitutional duties as a check on the consolidation of executive power ensuring good government that works on behalf of all Americans is not a partisan issue however at this time as the ranking member alluded to
▶ 0:29:44we are living through a constitutional crisis and this committee must lead right now we need to meet this unprecedented moment anything else is to seed the legislative Branch's constitutional Duty and to deny the American people the kind of over sight that they deserve and are demanding and yes we are all hearing it in our districts so I must say that I'm extremely disappointed that this proposed Administration and oversight plan completely ignores the elephant in the room the gross abuses of power and flagrant disgard regard for the Constitution and the rule of law
▶ 0:30:14that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are engaging in within days of taking office president Trump fired nearly a quarter of Inspector generals across the federal government he has tried to fire FBI agents and doj staff that he views as insufficiently loyal to him and this weekend he fired not only a number of top generals at the Pentagon which made the news but also the Judge Advocate generals at each of the major Military Arms let's be clear these are the people in institutions that are actually supposed to be monitoring waste fraud abuse
▶ 0:30:45and mismanagement they are the Watchmen at the front lines and Donald Trump has fired them all and it is frankly outrageous that this committee has refused to investigate this or to address it in our Administration and oversight plan president Trump Trump of course also issued the Doge executive order which authorizes the creation of the Department of government efficiency which to be clear is not a department uh that would require congressional action and also Senate confirmation but is a temporary organization limited by law to a specific study or project in this case as the White House order
▶ 0:31:15made clear data modernization but what Doge has indeed done has gone far beyond a temporary data modernization project under the leadership of Elon Musk Doge has asserted sweeping powers to undo congressionally enacted laws and to redirect congressionally mandated Appropriations Powers which not are not only clearly illegal for a temporary special government employee which is how musk has been categorized to exert but which would also be illegal if the president tried to do this the Constitution is clear Congress
▶ 0:31:46and only Congress has the power to make laws and appropriate money this is so simple that it's taught in our elementary schools I know this because I have kids who are 14 12 and 9 they've all learned this all of us here sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States an oath that by the way Elon Musk has not taken but too many members of this Congress have chosen to ignore Donald Trump and Elon musk's blatantly unconstitutional attacks on our congressional powers and I want to make clear this is not a partisan issue when musk steals
▶ 0:32:16our Congressional Appropriations Authority when he usurps our Congressional legislative Authority it affects Democrats and republics together because it's your power on the other side of the aisle that's also being taken away and by being being silent on this you are setting the precedent that in any future Administration a special government employee can rewrite congressionally enacted laws and redirect congressionally appropriated funding that is why I introduce the bolstering American democracy and demanding oversight and government ethics or bad Doge act because doge is violating
▶ 0:32:46federal laws and the Constitution every single day now let's also talk about the particular problems posed by Elon Musk he is the world's richest and most ethically conflicted person you're reportedly failed a high level security clearance because of a rampant drug use and close ties to Russian and Chinese leaders musk has taken control of our federal payment systems and he's acquired access to the sensitive personal information of anyone who's ever received a check from the federal government and now he's trying to gain access to our tax returns in so doing
▶ 0:33:16he's violating dozens of laws around privacy and ethics at the same time he appears to be using Doge for his own personal interests to settle scores against agencies like the FAA and the California Coastal Commission which prevented him from launching SpaceX Rockets indiscriminately due to concerns around safety and environmental impact or usaid which was reportedly investigating his interference with starlink terminals used by Ukraine or to advance his business interest such as by canceling contracts with his Rivals like the $6.6 billion federally guaranteed loan to rivan
▶ 0:33:47that was cancelled and let's not forget that he is keeping all of his contracts and getting new ones like the $400 million contract for armored cyber trucks now Elon Musk is out of control what he's proposing is out of control he is violating a number of laws he is ethically conflicted and the American people need transparency and answers and we need to be looking into this I respectfully yield back chair recognize Mr grman from Wisconsin just a comment because I've heard similar
▶ 0:34:17uh comments from other members of your party and of course I love working with you guys um when when uh Elon Musk or Doge or or the president uh look into some of the federal employees around here and we all know federal employees around here because maybe we have relatives we have friends whatnot who work in the government we hear some scare stories about people doing and they're many many hardworking federal employees I'm glad we have
▶ 0:34:47good F federal employees but we hear anecdotal evidence of people doing little if president Trump is the head of the Executive Branch and he discovers some employees doing very little your position is apparently that we must keep these people going through the next budget or what have you and keep doing very little it is obvious to me that both president Trump and the American public upon discovering
▶ 0:35:18people who are doing very little work should ask that those employees be terminated it's not something he does joyfully but that is what you do if you are running the executive branch and it is ridiculous that we have to have President Trump attacked and the Republican Party attacked when an effort is made to find employees who are doing little I am glad that President Trump has assigned people to look into this
▶ 0:35:48and I I I there there critical things you can say about the Republicans but I wish you'd focus on that rather than trying to claim that every federal employee here in this town is necessary would you yield for a question sure we you well because you're bringing up that it should be okay and you see no problem with the Trump Administration and with Doge doing this Mass firing because quote unquote
▶ 0:36:18people are doing very little how are they figuring out who's doing very little I'm curious well you'll have to ask them right I'll have to ask them so you're okay with being behind a something that's happening the mass people veteran Congressman Gran's time um the president is in charge of the executive branch I would assume at any given time people are being hired and being fired probably more than have been the last 50
▶ 0:36:48years around here but they are they are do are not going to report to Congress every time they feel a position is unnecessary that would be abser gentleman yield his time to Mr goar you know uh Glenn I'd like to ask you uh about wasn't uh wasn't there this is not novel having somebody like this wasn't Ezekiel Emanuel part of Obamacare and I don't know what's more personal
▶ 0:37:19our personal financial or our uh oh all presidents have unconfirmed advisor thank you that is not a new thing either with the gentleman yield chair gentleman yields back right uh is it your position that the president uh can f delete any agency creative yeah Jo he yielded his time back chiz Mr Chris morte from Illinois thank you Mr chair I I just to very briefly address Mr growman I
▶ 0:37:49I I take you at you know as being serious about wanting to improve efficiency in government and so forth I think the issue is when you fire or give a pink slip to 200,000 probationary workers at one time regardless of their efficiency I think that's where there's a serious concern that's raised um but I want to just address one other issue Mr comr and that's the US Postal Service um on December 14 2024 The Washington Post reported that the Trump Administration
▶ 0:38:19was considering at that time a move to privatize the postal service and push thousands of federal service employees out of their jobs in favor of a broad privatization of the agency's essential Services then just last week on February 20th The Washington Post stated that the administration is preparing to quote dissolve the leadership of the USPS and absorb the independent male agency into his administration as you know the Commerce Department
▶ 0:38:50potentially throwing trillions of dollars of e-commerce transactions into turmoil these reports are Beyond beond troubling and I respectfully request that you have a hearing again on the USPS you had a very good hearing the other day where we we were able to grill Mr dejoy and I learned a lot I think a lot of our members on both sides learned a lot I think we need to have a hearing on this particular issue as you know the USPS is the foundation of our $ 1.92
▶ 0:39:20trillion doll mailing industry LED courageously by um numerous veterans letter carriers to deliver 44% of the world's mail more importantly no private sector entity provides Universal service across the nation and without these letter carriers and others more than 51.5 million households and businesses especially in rural communities Mr chairman would have no guaranteed delivery as a member of this panel tasked with
▶ 0:39:50oversight of the federal government's activities including the USPS I believe it's essential it's imperative that we have this hearing sir I know that you and the and the ranking member care deeply about the USPS and what the administration is proposing to do with the USPS in my opinion is um illegal it is against the framework of the USPS and we need to look into it I yield back
▶ 0:40:20gentlemen yield back before I recognize M Green from from Georgia I I'll just respond that when we see a proposal or something we will have something either a briefing or a Committee hearing or subcommittee hearing or or something I'm interested as well uh to see what uh you mentioned potentially throw it into turmoil some would argue the postal service is already in turmoil right now with the the the delays in certain male sorting facilities so uh I I agree with what you said I know you're sincere and I think uh ranky member Conley
▶ 0:40:51and I demonstrated uh we we want to support the postal service and uh so when we find out more we'll we'll do something immediately have a briefing or a or a subcommittee hearing or full Committee hearing okay chair recognize Miss Green from Georgia Thank you Mr chairman um Democrat colleagues across the aisle are complaining and pitching Tantrums over Elon Musk and his doge teams cutting waste Fraud and Abuse from the executive branch and the federal
▶ 0:41:21government claiming this is unconstitutional is an outright lie article two of the Constitution clearly states that the executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America president Trump exercised That Power by appointing Mr Elon Musk as a special government employee the president via executive order created the US Doge service within the former US digital service to implement
▶ 0:41:51the president's Doge agenda by modernizing federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity Doge has been brought in exactly like the US digital service during President Obama's tenure this is unconstitutional 72% of Americans This is on both sides of the aisles you guys these are people in your District these are people in my district agree that we need to cut the ridiculous
▶ 0:42:21amount of waste Fraud and Abuse because Americans all of us together are 30 6 trillion in debt $36 trillion in debt is what should unconstitutional not doing everything we can to save the American people their hard-earned tax dollars you can protest all you want outside of Departments of this government you can protest all you want but the American people disagree with you you're protecting the bureaucracy
▶ 0:42:52the bureaucracy is not a business those are not real jobs produced in federal revenue by the way they're consuming taxpayer dollars those jobs are paid for by the American Tax people who work real jobs earn real income pay federal taxes and then pay these federal employees federal employees do not deserve their jobs federal employees not do not deserve their paychecks and these are jobs
▶ 0:43:22that can be fired at will but you want to know why the American people can't pay pay for it anymore we cannot afford it $36 trillion in debt if you want to make that your platform your Hill to die on go ahead because 72% of Americans agree with Doge agree with cutting the waste Fraud and Abuse and agree with what this committee is supposed to be about oversight so continue continue your temper tantrums I would love to win the midterms
▶ 0:43:52Mr chairman I yield back J yields back chiz Mr Frost from Florida thank you Mr chair I appreciate it you know in the in the mission statement um that you've put out for this committee it says it's ensure that the economy efficiency Effectiveness and accountability of the federal government which I think we all agree on we all want to combat waste F abuse but the thing is that y'all are all looking in the wrong places you want to talk about making cuts to things like Medicaid which by the way over 35% of
▶ 0:44:22all the children in this country are covered under Medicaid over 100,000 people in my district are covered under Medicaid uh people like the grifter and chief Trump and president musk are openly using their public offices to enrich themselves to the tune of billions of dollars so if we want to look at waste Fraud and Abuse which I'm down to do why is there complete silence on the other side of the aisle about looking at the complete grifter that the is the president of the United
▶ 0:44:52States and the richest man on the earth which is looking into things like Social Security why don't we investigate the real time hold off hold off hold off there was a point of order when you said something who who who asked for it Mr
▶ 0:45:22Higgins I can refer to Elon Musk as the I don't think the first amendment has been suspended in this committee yet yeah y'all were fine with with your other just a few weeks
▶ 0:45:53ago before on right after being elected president of United States Mr Frost before we proceed on all of this Mr chairman would you like to hold on I'm I'm the I'm the chairman I'm recognize Mr Frost and will'll recognize recognize you would you like to revise your remark uh with to improperly identifying the president of the United States I'll say president musk
▶ 0:46:24and grifter and chief Trump all right grifter hey Mr Mr chairman point of order if I wanted to challenge someone to a fight they would know it you there's there's an extra fundraising video for her Mr chairman Mr chairman I don't believe
▶ 0:46:54that Mr musk is protected by the rul of the house or the committee and and and no we're we're looking at the disparaging the president now but I don't believe Mr Frost disparaged the president I believe he disparaged Mr musk well he did dispar Mr chairman if Mr musk actually came here then maybe the rules I heard no disparagement I'll say something else we'll save a lot of time I'll say something else okay all right we're going to let chair recognize Mr Frost you still have 349
▶ 0:47:25you're going to maybe revise the the disparaging comment about the president because that's supposed to be our decorum here and it is supposed to be president musk and the president of the United States Donald Trump who is engaged in grifting of the American people often use their public offices to enrich themselves someone on the other side was just asking how would you feel if you called someone else from hold off hold off Mr Frost hold off there's a there's a pending
▶ 0:47:55motion for disparaging the president the the so the motion was uh words taken down about disparaging the president and the chair finds the words from the gentleman from Florida are not parliamentary because they constitute personalities toward the president which if you sit in the house floor that's always uh uttered by
▶ 0:48:26the presid iding officer on the house Flor you cannot disparage the president of the United so Mr chairman would you please read back to us the words that were disparaging because I didn't hear them if you're willing to request unanimous consent to withdraw the disparaging president the comments about President Trump I guess you can disparage Elon Musk if you want I will withdraw grifter in Chief and I will
▶ 0:48:59I will say the president's grifting because you spent the last two years president I can say I can say that Trump is grifting what I will withdraw is calling him grifter and chief that is what I will chair sustains the point of order and the words in question are ordered stricken from the transcript of this proceeding so the member is barred from further participation I I I challenge the ruling of the chair challenge the ruling of the chair
▶ 0:49:30all right I mooved your table the uh okay we have a motion to challenge ruling the chair and then uh Mr goar made a motion to table the Mr second uh Conley Conley's motion so there's a motion in second to table Mr Conley's motion uh the motion is not debatable as many as are in favor of tabling signify by saying
▶ 0:50:01I I I all those opposed signify by saying no no in the opinion Mr chairman I ask for a recorded vote a recorded vote is ordered the clerk will call the role Mr Jordan Mr Jordan votes yes Mr Turner Mr gosar yes Mr goar
▶ 0:50:31votes yes Miss Fox Mr growman yes Mr growman votes yes Cloud Mr Cloud votes yes Mr Palmer Mr Palmer votes I Mr Higgins Mr Higgins votes yes
▶ 0:51:02Mr sessions Mr sessions votes I Mr Bigs Mr Bigs votes I miss mace Miss mace votes I Mr Fallon I Mr Fallon votes I Mr Donald's Mr Perry Mr Perry votes I Mr Timmons
▶ 0:51:32Mr Timmons votes I Mr burett Miss green Miss green votes I miss bobert Miss bobbert votes I miss Luna Mr Langworthy burles Mr burles votes I Mr
▶ 0:52:03Crane Mr Crane votes I Mr Jack I Mr Jack votes I Mr Maguire Mr Maguire votes yes Mr Gil Mr Gil votes I Mr Connelly nay Mr Connelly votes nay Miss Norton no Miss Norton votes no Mr
▶ 0:52:33Lynch no Mr Lynch votes no Mr Krishna morthy no Mr Krishna morthy votes no Mr Conor no Mr Conor votes no Mr mfum no Mr mfum votes no Miss Brown no Miss Brown votes no Miss Danbury
▶ 0:53:04not miss Stansbury votes no Mr Garcia Mr Garcia votes no Mr Frost no Mr Frost votes no Miss Lee Miss Lee votes no Mr casar Miss Crockett insulting people's appearance as well as trying to fight them isn't
▶ 0:53:35a problem point of order it's a yes or no but we're so sad that our skip her skip her skip her skip her go to the next one go to the next the MSNBC anchor go to the next one don't count that go to the next one Miss Randall votes no Mr subam Mr subam votes no miss anari Mr Bell
▶ 0:54:05Mr Bell votes no Miss Simon Miss Simon votes no Mr Min no Mr Min votes no Miss Presley Miss TB nope Miss Talib votes no Mr chairman yes Mr chairman votes yes
▶ 0:54:36Mr chairman how is Miss Crockett recorded let's let's let's try this one more time how is Miss Crockett voted Miss Crockett is not yet recorded no all right I thinkk my colleague Miss Crockett votes no Mr chairman how is Mr quar recorded Mr casar is not recorded no Mr
▶ 0:55:06casar votes no Mr chairman on this vote
▶ 0:55:36the eyes are 20 the ns are 19 all right the the motion to table passes I now recognize Mr Maguire I want to say it's despicable that this committee is going to silence me for bringing the gentlem words have been taken down he's not permitted to speak the rest of the hearing making millions of dollars Mr ranky member I'm going to have the sergeant arms remove him if he doesn't refrain all right
▶ 0:56:06chair recognizes Mr Maguire Mr chairman parliamentary inquiry parliamentary inquiry Mr Maguire parliamentary thank Mr chairman Mr chairman I'd like to correct the record uh president Trump order Mr chairman I have a parli trump did win a m he won the popular vote and he won the Electoral College and he's delivering on those promises and our it's I find it interesting that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle
▶ 0:56:37uh are are mad at the folks that are having success like Elon Musk and identifying and correcting waste Fraud and Abuse and not upset with the folks that committed that waste Fraud and Abuse and if you were supportive of the last Administration I don't know if you are an authority on how we uh solve that problem considering we're getting more results in the last 5 weeks than our country has achieved in the last 50 years also I want to talk about the post office in my my district we have four hospitals and 42 health clinics
▶ 0:57:08I went to visit a health clinic and one of the things they do is they mail uh every day they mail prescription drugs to uh older folks all over the district and so I said well how does that work with the post office and they said we do not use the post office because sometimes they're a week or two l two weeks late on delivering those drugs which could have life-saving implications so I said well who do you use and they said they use ups and I said well how we liable are they and they said they're 100% reliable and I said well what's your
▶ 0:57:38worst case story of the ups and they said well we we sent something in the mail in 2013 and we got it back in 2023 so definitely we need to do some oversight on what's going on with the postal service so I can understand why we need to look at that also I think that uh president Trump is an incredible president he's a peacemaker and he's on a rooll uh Trump War speed this is the most historic first month of our presidency and I think uh I think the other side doesn't have an answer for this he signed 72 executive orders
▶ 0:58:09uh into law um into um he signed 72 executive orders um he ended burison regulations he sealed the Border he Unleashed American Energy eliminated divisive Dei which is illegal discrimination from our federal government He restored Merit and women's he saved women's sports he ended censorship of free speech he cut waste Fraud and Abuse restored Common Sense he signed the lake and Riley Act and the Senate has confirmed 19 of his cabinet nominees president Trump is on a role he has a
▶ 0:58:39mandate and I'm glad that um we are going to make progress and win the midterms if you guys to keep creating this manufactured outrage and with that I yeld back Mr chair before I recognize Mr Fallon Miss stanbury has a parliamentary inquiry and I I want to note that they just called votes on the floor but miss tanbury you're recognized what's your point of order uh well it's a parliamentary inquiry so Mr chairman uh I just want to make sure
▶ 0:59:09that I'm clear on the vote that was just taken so the vote that was just taken in the committee was to table a motion that would overturn striking down the words that Mr Frost said essentially saying that Donald Trump I'm putting quotes Donald Trump and musk were great no that's not correct it was to table his motion challenging the ruling of the chair yes that's exactly okay yes okay so just to be clear the outcome of I mean that that's the the question it was it was to table
▶ 0:59:39the motion by the ranking member to challenge the ruling of the chair and the ruling of the chair this is my parliamentary in Mr my parliamentary chairman I move the previous question is if this essentially silence Mr Frost took down his words Mr that cannot iog because he criticized the president recognized am parlamentar recogniz Mr Frost Mr
▶ 1:00:10chair procedural thank you for recognizing me I moov the previous question Mr chairman is this not a do we not have free speech anymore do we not let's talk about Free Speech Mr chairman I move the previous question there's a motion to move the previous question there second second by Mr Bigs Mr chairman the motion is not debatable but I will recognize you Mr connley if this motion were to be acted upon it would prevent the minority from providing its ANS which I
▶ 1:00:40understood earlier we were going to be allowed to be the we I mean did we have a hearing with uh on waste fraud abuse it hasn't even begun these normally last even in this committee the organization thing just normally last 5 or 10 minutes we've been in here 35 minutes arguing over the same things that uh that you know the people on each side of the committee argue over on TV multiple
▶ 1:01:10times a day uh we've got to get to business if we want to eliminate waste problem use we've got witnesses waiting we have tried to do this it the debate has gone on well beyond what uh was expected now there's a motion by Mr Fallon a good subcommittee chair to move the previous question the motion is not debatable and uh shall the main question now be put those in favor
▶ 1:01:40of signifying M uh support for Mr Fallon's motion to move the previous question signify by saying I I all those opposed signify by saying no no in the opin Mr chairman I ask for a recorded vote a recorded vote is ordered the clerk will call the rooll Mr Jordan Mr Jordan votes yes Mr
▶ 1:02:11Turner Mr gosar yes Mr goar votes yes Fox Mr growman Mr growman votes yes yes Mr Cloud Mr Cloud votes yes Mr Palmer Mr Palmer votes I Mr Higgins Mr Higgins
▶ 1:02:42votes I Mr sessions Mr sessions votes I Mr BS Mr BS votes I miss mace Miss mace votes I Mr Fallon I Mr Fallon votes I Mr Donald's Mr Perry Mr Perry votes I
▶ 1:03:12Mr Timmons Mr Timmons votes I Mr burett Miss green Miss green votes I miss bobbert Miss bobert votes I miss Luna Mr Langworthy Mr burles Mr burles votes I Mr Crane
▶ 1:03:43Mr Crane votes I Mr Jack I Mr Jack votes I Mr Maguire yes Mr Maguire votes yes Gil Mr Gil votes I Mr Connelly a resounding no Mr Connelly votes no Miss no Miss Norton votes no
▶ 1:04:13Mr Lynch Miss Lynch Mr Krishna morthy no Mr Krishna morthy votes no Mr Conor no Mr Conor votes no Mr mfum no Mr mfum votes no Miss Brown no Miss Brown votes no Stansbury Miss Stansbury votes no Mr
▶ 1:04:45Garcia Mr Garcia votes no Mr Frost Mr Frost votes no Miss Lee Miss Lee votes no Mr casar Miss Crockett no Miss Crockett votes no Miss Randall Miss Randall votes
▶ 1:05:15no Mr subam Mr subam votes no miss andari Mr Bell Mr Bell votes no Miss Simon Miss Simon votes no Mr min Mr Min votes no Miss Presley Miss Presley votes no Miss
▶ 1:05:45Talib Miss Talib votes no Mr chairman yes Mr chairman votes yes Mr chairman how has Mr casar voted uh recorded Mr casar is not yet recorded Mr casar votes no Mr chairman how has Mr Frost recorded Mr Frost Mr Frost has voted uh recorded as voting no
▶ 1:06:16Mr chairman how is Miss TB recorded Miss TB is recorded as voting Mr chairman on this vote the eyes are 20 the Nays are 19 all right motion passes uh we we will immediately roll into voting on the rules but
▶ 1:06:46because the floor votes have been called and they were called about 10 minutes ago pursuant to the previous order the chair declares the committee in recess uh subject to 10 minutes after the final
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▶ 1:46:10Mr chairman yes sir Mr chairman before we begin I uh I want to address the course of events that preceded are going into the floorida vote uh comedy and dignity in this committee are important Mr Frost was threatened with the sergeant at- arms I believe that was a very unfortunate Outburst from the chair I understand this
▶ 1:46:41frustration in having to manage a unruly bunch of people um but and I'm part of that unruly bunch of people too but I just want to say uh before Mr Frost would be removed by the sergeant arms you'd have to remove this ranking member and all of the Democrats on this side of the aisle I thank the chair for his consideration I appreciate you re what what do we do when when he's gaveled out for three minutes and continues to ramble what's what's
▶ 1:47:11the process there I believe Mr chairman Mr Frost was not rambling and I believe Mr Frost would have cons finished his thoughts and uh proceeded with the with the uh the motion I know Mr Frost not to be a disruptive presence he was trying to articulate a point of view and be heard and of course everything was suppressed by ordering the previous question the minority has been denied its right to have an alternative work plan
▶ 1:47:41considered which I consider unfortunate and a suppression of our rights Mr chairman yes go ahead Mr Perry thanks Mr chairman I I just look Jerry connley is my friend I know that many in the room are frustrated I've been frustrated in the past two you know John Cary out as the president's special Envoy signing us up for
▶ 1:48:11the Paris climate Accord Alexander manise signing us up for the Iran nuclear deal of which nobody signed look we all get frustrated I get it um but if the chairman has to maintain order here he has he's got to quite honestly I think he has to rely on the good graces and the and the Integrity of the members themselves and if they refuse to abide by that and I've been frustrated in the past two and I probably pushed the limits but sometimes you say something that you shouldn't have said
▶ 1:48:42and when you're given an opportunity to have to to take it down yourself that's your opportunity and if you're not going to do it that that's your choice we all make decisions but then there are consequences for those for those decisions and and I would say by moving the previous question it isn't it isn't taking anyone's right away we still had a vote um I I I appreciate fully that you don't agree with the vote but
▶ 1:49:12we still had the vote we still considered it we still heard your narrative on it appreciate it I I can see a lot of work went into it but at the end of the day the chairman is a chairman he's got to make sure that we have order so that we can have the arguments in a fashion by which we can respect one another have our voices heard knowing that there are going to be disagreements and then and then move forward so that we can so that we can proceed
▶ 1:49:42around this place and I appreciate you Mr connley I just think in this one I think the chairman did the right thing and I'll with that I'll Youk thank you and I'll let Mr connley speak Mr per speak we're going to uh now resume the Committee hearing the question is now on the amendment in the nature of a substitute uh all those in favor of the uh vote on the ANS for the committee oversight plan that's what this hearing is about or prehearing
▶ 1:50:12offered by me offered uh by Mr comr from Kentucky all those in favor signify by saying yay I all those opposed signify by saying no no in the opinion of the chair the eyes Mr chairman I ask for a recorded vote okay recorded vote is ordered the clerk will call the RO uh members will record their votes using the electronic voting system the clerk uh will now open the vote on the amendment to uh
▶ 1:50:42to the to the uh uh the ANS all those uh in favor signify by voting yes all those oppose no
▶ 1:51:27I know
▶ 1:52:08have all members voted who wish to vote does any member wish to change their vote the clerk will report to tally Mr chairman on this vote the eyes are 22 to the Nay are 17 motion passes pursu it to this vote the committee uh okay now uh Mr chairman yes just pursuing to house rule 11 Clause 21 toi rather I intend to follow minority views on the report
▶ 1:52:39okay the eyes have it on the amendment in the nature of a substitute it's agreed to the question is now on favorably reporting the plan as amended members will record their votes using the electronic voting system the clerk will now open the vote can you see not yet you haven't gotten it yet you're good now okay do you want do you want me to make the motion I'm not the motion just reiterate what I just said did I was that in the wrong
▶ 1:53:09time uh the demand for minority view you want to you can say yeah after that I'll you some time is that good yeah have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded does any member wish to change the vote the clerk will call the
▶ 1:53:43vote Mr chairman on this vote the eyes are 22 the Nays are 18 pursuant to the vote the committee hereby adopts this authorization an oversight plan for the 119th Congress without objection the motion reconsiders is laid on the table now before we roll into the regular hearing I'm going to uh Grant the ranking member time to express uh whatever he wants to I was just notifying the committee Mr chairman that pursuing to house rule 11 Clause 2i I
▶ 1:54:13intend to f file minority views okay especially in light of the fact that we were denied the opportunity to move our ANS Mr chairman Mr chairman given we didn't have much time could we get one minute to speak on this or no no we moved a previous question so that ends debate now we we'll have a Committee hearing we're going to start the Committee hearing and uh point of order everybody have five minutes point of order uh Mr chairman point of order um so
▶ 1:54:43I I am new to this committee uh but I I guess I was hoping for some clarification on how we're allowed to describe people I I watched a lot of footage last um year as as members of this committee uh made comments about President Biden uh that may have may or may not have been factually true but certainly could be taken as insulting and I guess uh the question I have is uh some people might say that uh launching a meme coin or that the fact that the president's wife uh took a $40 million deal from Amazon might
▶ 1:55:13qualify him to be a grifter and I I I'm not calling him now I'm just wondering what we're allowed to say for example are we allowed to describe him as a convicted felon uh given that he was convicted by a jury of his peers for felony counts uh what are we allowed to say or not say in this you all have been saying that so you can say that it's just the personalities not to engage in personalities with the president of the United States and pardon me if I said anything to offend you about no I'm just I don't get offended I was just wondering what the rules are uh because some people might say that Donald Trump is a grifter
▶ 1:55:44and I think that that could be seen as factually uh asserted in in fact so do I without objection the staff is authorized to make necessary Technical and conforming changes to the plan ordered reported today subject to the approval of the minority without objection so ordered if there's no further business before the committee without objection the committee stands adjourned now we're going to start the regular Committee hearing we we're going to need
▶ 1:56:14a f minute break for C-SPAN to set up for the regular Committee hearing so we've got five minutes if anybody needs to be anywhere for 5 minutes once C-SPAN gives us the signal we'll we'll yeah that's good oh we've got to get our Witnesses set up