Oversight Hearing – The Department of Defense

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense · 2025-06-10 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense held its first oversight hearing with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Begins at 0:03:08
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Highlights

Title

Defense Secretary Hegseth and Gen. Caine testify on FY2026 budget and LA deployment

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense held its first oversight hearing with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine, focused on the Department's fiscal year 2026 budget request and broader departmental priorities. Members pressed the witnesses on the incomplete budget submission, the deployment of National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles, submarine and shipbuilding programs, Golden Dome missile defense, and personnel and recruiting policy. Begins at0:03:08

Who spoke

Chairman Ken Calvert (R-CA)0:03:08: Opened the hearing welcoming the witnesses, cited a 10% pay raise for junior enlisted troops on top of a 4.5% raise0:07:43, and pressed on DOT&E staff cuts and ensuring independent testing isn't compromised0:38:541:40:37.

Ranking Member Betty McCollum (D-MN)0:08:08: Criticized the full-year continuing resolution and the lack of a complete FY2026 budget request by June 100:09:240:10:18; called the deployment of Marines to Los Angeles "downright escalatory"0:12:32 and criticized the firing of Gen. CQ Brown, Adm. Franchetti, and other leaders0:12:58; closed reiterating the FSRM funding cut concern2:18:06.

Chairman Tom Cole (R-OK), Full Committee0:14:25: Welcomed the witnesses, raised concerns about shipbuilding delays and capability gaps during platform transitions0:16:07, and echoed McCollum's frustration at insufficient budget detail from OMB0:17:28.

Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT), Full Committee Ranking Member0:19:45: Said the department has not sent a complete budget request and detailed a "pattern of chaos" including the firing of the Inspector General and Joint Chiefs chairman0:22:24, the Signal chat security lapse0:22:47, and cuts to Medicaid/SNAP affecting future recruits0:25:06.

Secretary Pete Hegseth0:26:05: Presented the $961.6 billion FY2026 request, said the department found nearly $30 billion in savings0:28:23, outlined three priorities (warrior ethos, rebuilding the military, reestablishing deterrence)0:29:20, and later defended the LA deployment as necessary to protect ICE agents1:59:002:00:30.

Gen. Dan Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs0:32:44: Emphasized efficiency, accountability and lethality0:33:13, said the budget invests in properly arming, integrating and readying the joint force0:35:55, and later called Sentinel program delays a concern needing new approaches1:57:05.

Rep. Betty McCollum (Q&A)0:43:31: Asked how much the LA National Guard/Marine deployment and Qatar plane and border deployments will cost, and what accounts fund them0:46:14; pressed Hegseth to answer the budget questions directly0:48:07.

Rep. Tom Cole (Q&A)0:49:32: Asked about retiring E-3 AWACS aircraft and E-7 replacement timeline and cost0:50:02; raised hiring-freeze exemptions for mission-critical roles like aircraft mechanics0:53:52.

Rep. Rosa DeLauro (Q&A)0:55:18: Pressed on submarine production, noting the department plans to move $3.1 billion in Colombia-class funding from 2026 into 2027–2028, and asked for a written production plan0:57:390:59:59.

Rep. Hal Rogers (R-KY)1:01:37: Asked about the Ukrainian drone strike on Russian bombers as a new era of warfare and what the U.S. is doing to defend against a similar attack1:02:001:03:20; asked if reports of 40% of Russian long-range bombers being destroyed were accurate2:06:35.

Rep. Betty McCollum's colleague, Rep. Jahana Hayes / "Miss Captor" (D-CT)1:06:35: Questioned use of "warrior ethos" language regarding domestic policing1:07:02 and asked whether U.S. air bases could defend against a similar drone attack1:10:35.

Rep. (unidentified member questioning defense industrial base)1:07:32: Asked about specific accounts for defense industrial base investment and requested a response within a week and a half1:08:03.

Rep. Mike Carter (R-TX/or similar)1:12:04: Asked how the Army's new Transformation and Training Command will coordinate with acquisition authorities1:12:33 and about modernizing energetics/ammunition manufacturing1:15:31.

Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX)1:17:35: Advocated keeping the proposed Western Hemisphere Command headquartered in San Antonio rather than relocating it1:18:53.

Rep. Chuck Fleischmann (R-TN)1:22:49: Asked about pace of nuclear triad recapitalization amid Russian and Chinese modernization, and Pacific non-strategic nuclear capability gaps1:54:101:55:09.

Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA)1:57:37: Questioned conditions for National Guard troops deployed to LA (sleeping on floors, lack of food/water)1:58:01, deployment cost of $134 million funded from O&M1:59:30, and legal authority under 10 USC 124062:00:59.

Rep. David Valadao (R-CA)2:02:45: Asked about PCS/household goods contract problems and reimbursement fixes2:03:11, and about munitions and defense industrial base surge capacity2:04:33.

Rep. Michael Aderholt / Anderhold (R-AL)2:13:16: Asked Hegseth to confirm the $175 billion total cost of Golden Dome and sought detail on AUKUS Pillar II program funding2:14:032:15:00.

Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR), "Chairman Wack" [1:22:49 sec]: Asked Caine about risks from Army/Marine Corps force structure changes1:23:19 and pressed both witnesses to commit to properly resourcing the National Guard1:25:06.

Rep. (Mr. Casease / Casten-style questioner on Indo-Pacific)1:27:45: Questioned Hegseth on whether military strength alone achieves Indo-Pacific stability, citing cuts to State Department, USAID, and Millennium Challenge Corporation funding1:28:101:30:18.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL)1:32:45: Asked about the turnaround in military recruiting1:33:13 and the rationale for keeping Southern Command headquartered in South Florida1:33:44.

Rep. Susie Lee (D-NV)1:37:47: Raised DoD paying an Australian firm more than U.S.-based MP Materials for rare earth production1:38:03 and asked about full funding and timeline for the Collaborative Combat Aircraft program1:40:161:41:04.

Rep. Andy Ogles / "Mr. Elzie" (R-TN)1:42:30: Praised recruiting gains and advocated for funding the Navy's F/A-XX sixth-generation fighter alongside the Air Force's F-471:45:13.

Rep. Joe Morelli (D-NY)1:47:37: Asked for a commitment that witnesses return once the full budget is submitted1:48:01, questioned absence from the Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting1:49:15, and asked how much of the presidential drawdown authority for Ukraine had actually been delivered1:49:45.

Rep. Ben Cline / "Mr. Choice" (R-VA)2:07:47: Asked about prepositioning stocks in the Indo-Pacific and the Army's industrial base capacity to support it2:08:17, and about contested logistics investments2:10:07.

Ms. Bryn MacDonnell, Performing Duties of DoD Comptroller/CFO1:41:32: Provided the CCA budget figure of $84 million1:41:32 and confirmed the $134 million LA deployment cost funded from O&M accounts1:59:59.

Key moments

McCollum said the DoD's budget request was due in February but still had not been submitted by June 10, forcing the committee to mark up an "incomplete" bill0:09:52.

DeLaro said none of the department's plans for the $175 billion Golden Dome program have been briefed to Congress despite a three-year delivery timeline0:10:49.

Hegseth confirmed the FY26 request totals $961.6 billion, over $1 trillion including national security spending, and said nearly $30 billion in savings has already been redirected0:27:560:28:23.

DeLauro said the department plans to shift $3.1 billion in Columbia-class submarine funding from 2026 into 2027-2028, which she said would create a "financial hole" for shipbuilders; Hegseth disputed the characterization but did not provide a written plan during the hearing0:57:391:01:13.

Aguilar and MacDonnell disclosed the LA deployment's estimated cost at $134 million, funded from O&M accounts, on top of roughly $1 billion already pulled from FSRM accounts for border operations1:59:302:02:15.

Hegseth said the LA National Guard and Marine deployment would last 60 days, invoking 10 U.S.C. 12406, though he could not specify which of the three statutory triggers applied when pressed by Aguilar1:59:302:01:00.

Hegseth said the department's DOT&E office was cut by roughly 74% in staff and 80% in budget as part of a broader efficiency review, framing it as "right-sizing" rather than eliminating oversight0:38:540:42:02.

Cole and DeLauro both said they have not received the detailed budget "J-books" needed to evaluate line items; McCollum said she has zero of the 30 J-books provided in prior cycles2:19:04.

Rep. Lee raised a New York Times report that DoD paid an Australian firm ten times more than U.S.-based MP Materials for rare-earth (samarium) production capacity1:38:03.

MacDonnell confirmed the FY26 request includes $24.8 billion as a "down payment" toward the eventual $175 billion Golden Dome program2:14:29.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-06-10
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Pete Hegseth — Secretary, Department of Defense
General Dan Caine — Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
Ms. Bryn MacDonnell — Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, Performing the Duties of the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)/Chief Financial Officer
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Transcript310 caption blocks · 23,054 words · 2:20:48 runtime
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