AILegislative hearing on land, memorial, and access bills honoring military and first responders

Public Lands and Energy MarkupsHouse Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands · 2025-09-18 · 119th Congress
The House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands held this legislative hearing to consider six bills covering law enforcement and EMS memorial support, a small cemetery land-conveyance program, motorcycle access to national parks, a Vicksburg National Military Park boundary change, and a 20-year extension of Army land withdrawals in Alaska, Texas, and California. Begins at 0:06:48
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Legislative hearing on land, memorial, and access bills honoring military and first responders

Purpose

The House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands held this legislative hearing to consider six bills covering law enforcement and EMS memorial support, a small cemetery land-conveyance program, motorcycle access to national parks, a Vicksburg National Military Park boundary change, and a 20-year extension of Army land withdrawals in Alaska, Texas, and California. Bill sponsors, National Park Service and Army officials, and outside witnesses testified in support of the measures, while Democratic members used part of the hearing to press the Interior Department on reports that a historic photograph depicting slavery's violence was removed from a park exhibit. Begins at0:06:48

Who spoke

Chairman Tom Tiffany (R-WI)0:06:48: Opened the hearing on the six bills0:06:48, argued the bills advance Trump administration priorities on military readiness, law enforcement, and park access0:11:54, and later entered an Interior statement into the record saying it had not been asked to remove the "Scourged Back" photo0:51:56, defending the GOP's historical opposition to slavery0:52:49.

Rep. Jared Huffman (D-CA), Ranking Member, Full Committee0:12:49: Entered a National Academies report reaffirming the 2009 EPA endangerment finding into the record0:13:19; accused the Trump administration of censoring park history, including ordering removal of exhibits on slavery, Native American imprisonment, and Japanese American incarceration0:14:110:17:13; later pressed NPS's Caldwell repeatedly on whether the "Scourged Back" photo was removed at Fort Pulaski0:46:360:49:26.

Rep. Teresa Leger Fernandez (D-NM)0:18:08: Testified in support of her bill, H.R. 4284, the Small Cemetery Conveyance Act, describing communities forced to buy back land grant cemeteries from the Forest Service0:20:110:22:13; later questioned witness Archuleta about cemeteries running out of burial space and conveyance costs1:36:501:39:15.

Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX)0:23:39: Testified for H.R. 309, the National Law Enforcement Officers Remembrance, Support and Community Outreach Act, requested a moment of silence for three Pennsylvania officers killed the previous day0:24:01, and described the bill's $6 million annual grant structure to the National Law Enforcement Museum0:25:34.

Rep. Nicholas Begich (R-AK)0:26:35: Testified for H.R. 5131, saying it extends military withdrawal of over 850,000 acres near Fort Wainwright and Fort Greely through 20510:27:04; later questioned General Zinn on Arctic strategic competition0:41:53 and Caldwell on NPS-DOD coordination0:44:23.

Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI)0:29:36: Testified for H.R. 4386, the America the Beautiful Motorcycle Fairness Act, describing the 2024 policy change limiting passes to one motorcycle instead of two0:30:59; later questioned witness Umphress on economic impact of motorcycle tourism1:48:36.

Brigadier General David Zinn, U.S. Army0:32:26: Testified that Army land withdrawals provide 1.6 million acres across Fort Wainwright, Fort Bliss, and Fort Irwin critical to readiness0:33:17, and that NEPA analysis at all three sites took roughly two years, partly delayed by COVID0:54:17.

Mr. Mike Caldwell, NPS Associate Director0:36:38: Presented Interior's views supporting H.R. 2196, H.R. 4386, and H.R. 4467 with recommended amendments0:38:160:40:38, but was repeatedly unable to confirm or deny whether the slavery photo was removed at Fort Pulaski0:48:001:00:45.

Rep. Joe Neguse (D-CO), Ranking Member, Subcommittee0:58:36: Pressed Caldwell further on the photo removal, calling the answers evasive0:59:241:01:40, and entered a Washington Post article into the record describing the order1:03:56.

Rep. (Ms. Molloy)1:05:21: Asked Caldwell whether NPS is following its mission statement of preserving resources for public enjoyment and education1:05:42.

Chief James Robinson, Thompson Valley EMS1:07:47: Testified for H.R. 2196 to extend the National EMS Memorial Foundation's authority, describing 24 years since 9/11 and the need for a permanent memorial site near Third and Independence SW0:08:151:12:20.

Mr. Bill Alexander, CEO, National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund1:13:16: Testified for H.R. 309, noting the memorial lists 24,412 fallen officers and 345 names added this past May, and that the bill has 114 co-sponsors1:15:391:17:36.

Mr. Candido Archuleta, New Mexico Land Grant Council1:19:07: Testified for H.R. 4284, explaining at least 20 known community cemeteries sit on federal land in New Mexico due to the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo adjudication process1:21:561:20:32.

Ms. Bess Everett, Executive Director, Friends of Vicksburg National Military Park1:24:28: Testified for H.R. 4467, describing a new visitor center project funded mainly by Mississippi and private donations, with the bill conveying about ten acres in two tracts1:25:471:27:32.

Mr. Tom Umphress, American Motorcyclist Association1:29:39: Testified for H.R. 4386, citing 215,000 AMA members, a $50.9 billion motorcycle/powersports industry, and the 2024 policy shift to a single-signature pass1:30:091:31:52.

Rep. Pete Stauber (R-MN)1:40:10: A former police officer, thanked Robinson and Alexander for their testimony, recounted being shot off duty, and criticized the "defund the police" movement1:41:391:46:42.

Key moments

Rep. Huffman said the Trump administration ordered removal of an iconic photograph of slave-whipping violence from a park display, and that officials are "backpedaling" amid backlash0:15:580:16:25.

Chairman Tiffany entered an article stating Interior "has not been asked to remove" the Scourged Back photo0:51:56, while Neguse countered that the article doesn't say the photo wasn't taken down and cited anonymous NPS staff reports that it was0:59:24.

Caldwell was asked directly at least five times whether the photo was removed and repeatedly answered only "I'm not involved in the implementation of this secretarial order," which Neguse called evasive1:00:451:01:40.

Neguse entered a Washington Post article (Sept. 15) quoting Park Service officials ordering removal of the photo and 30 signs flagged for removal at Harpers Ferry1:04:26.

General Zinn testified the Alaska Army land withdrawal (~870,000 acres) is the only U.S. location for large-scale Arctic training, and losing it would "severely degrade" readiness0:33:350:34:05.

Archuleta said New Mexico land grant communities must currently purchase back at fair market value cemetery land inadvertently placed under Forest Service control, calling this "unsettling"1:39:401:24:04.

Umphress said the AMA received no public comment period before the 2024 America the Beautiful Pass change restricting passes to one motorcycle, a shift made in January 20241:54:141:53:46.

Everett said the current 1960s-era Vicksburg visitor center is too small for the nearly half a million annual visitors and sits on core battlefield land [0:25:47 → 1:25:19, 1:25:47].

Alexander said the National Law Enforcement Museum receives zero federal dollars for programming despite honoring 24,412 fallen officers, and that H.R. 309 would let it open free to the public0:25:131:17:19.

Rep. Nehls opened by requesting a moment of silence for three law enforcement officers killed the day before in Pennsylvania0:24:01.

Metadata

Official titleLegislative hearing on the following bills: • H.R. 309 (Rep. Nehls), “National Law Enforcement Officers Remembrance, Support and Community Outreach Act” • H.R. 2196 (Rep. Hudson), To provide for an extension of the legislative authority of the National Emergency Medical Services Memorial Foundation to establish a commemorative work in the District of Columbia and its environs. • H.R. 4284 (Rep. Leger Fernandez), “Small Cemetery Conveyance Act” • H.R. 4386 (Rep. Walberg), To amend the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act to clarify entrance privileges for vehicles with respect to the America the Beautiful interagency pass. • H.R. 4467 (Rep. Thompson of MS), “Vicksburg National Military Park Boundary Modification Act” • H.R. 5131 (Rep. Begich), “Public Lands Military Readiness Act of 2025”.
CommitteeHouse Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-09-18
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Teresa Leger Fernandez — Member of Congress
The Honorable Tim Walberg — Member of Congress
The Honorable Nicholas Begich — Member of Congress
The Honorable Troy Nehls — Member of Congress
Brigadier General David Zinn — Director of Training, G-3/5/7 Training Directorate, United States Army
Mr. Mike Caldwell — Associate Director - Park Planning, Facilities, and Lands, National Park Service
Mr. Bill Alexander — Chief Executive Officer, National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund
Mr. James Robinson — Chief, Thompson Valley EMS
Mr. Candido Archuleta — Director of Operations and Programs, Albuquerque, NM
Ms. Bess Averett — Executive Director, Friends of Vicksburg National Military Park & Campaign
Mr. Tom Umphress — Board Member, American Motorcycle Association
Ms. Bess Averett — Executive Director, Friends of Vicksburg National Military Park & Campaign
Brigadier General David Zinn — Director of Training, G-3/5/7 Training Directorate, United States Army
Mr. Mike Caldwell — Associate Director - Park Planning, Facilities, and Lands, National Park Service
Mr. Bill Alexander — Chief Executive Officer, National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund
The Honorable Nicholas Begich — Member of Congress
The Honorable Troy Nehls — Member of Congress
Mr. Candido Archuleta — Director of Operations and Programs, Albuquerque, NM
The Honorable Teresa Leger Fernandez — Member of Congress
The Honorable Tim Walberg — Member of Congress
Mr. James Robinson — Chief, Thompson Valley EMS
Mr. Tom Umphress — Board Member, American Motorcycle Association
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