Examining the Policies and Priorities of the Department of Health and Human Services

Treasury and HHS ConfirmationsHouse Education and Workforce · 2026-04-17 · 119th Congress
The House Education and Workforce Committee held this hearing to question HHS Secretary Robert F. Begins at 0:22:46
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Highlights

Title

HHS Secretary Kennedy testifies on 2027 budget and health policy

Purpose

The House Education and Workforce Committee held this hearing to question HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the department's fiscal year 2027 budget request and its policies on health care costs, chronic disease, child nutrition, Medicaid, vaccines, and transgender medical care for minors. Members clashed over proposed HHS budget cuts, the expiration of enhanced ACA premium tax credits, and Kennedy's public statements on autism, vaccines, and gun violence. Begins at0:22:46

Who spoke

Chairman Tim Walberg (R-MI)0:22:46: Opened by praising HHS's transparency and nutrition efforts under Kennedy0:23:14, the restoration of whole-fat dairy in child nutrition programs0:24:46, and the budget's proposed $1.8 billion in annual savings0:26:22.

Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA), Ranking Member0:27:29: Criticized the proposed $15.8 billion cut to HHS discretionary funding0:28:45, warned of roughly 15 million losing insurance0:29:46, and raised HHS's freeze of over $10 billion in funds to five Democratic-led states and elimination of LIHEAP0:30:280:31:39; later pressed Kennedy on GAO cooperation regarding DOGE data access3:02:32 and on releasing terms of the 16 pharmaceutical "most favored nation" deals3:04:14.

Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., HHS0:35:43: Touted negotiated "most favored nation" drug prices with 16 pharmaceutical companies0:36:35, the new dietary guidelines/food pyramid0:37:26, and the $50 billion Rural Health Transformation Fund0:39:09; denied being anti-vaccine1:00:41 and defended his autism comments as referring specifically to "profound autism"1:54:10.

Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC)0:52:17: Praised the budget's $1.8 billion in savings0:52:43 and asked about fraud in the CCDBG program, prompting Kennedy's account of Minnesota withholding receipts0:53:51; also asked about a Danish Tylenol-autism study, which Kennedy called "a garbage study"0:56:260:56:40.

Rep. Andrea Salinas (D-OR) ("Miss Manamichi" in transcript)0:57:47: Questioned Kennedy on the Kid Rock hot-tub video's cost0:58:35, measles vaccination rates falling below the 95% herd-immunity threshold0:59:38, and ICE presence near schools1:01:31.

Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI)1:03:12: Asked Kennedy about the old food pyramid's effect on child health, prompting Kennedy's claim that 38% of American teens are diabetic or pre-diabetic and 77% cannot qualify for military service1:04:401:05:10; also discussed SNAP soda restrictions1:08:26.

Rep. Mark Takano (D-CA)1:09:15: Pressed Kennedy repeatedly on whether President Trump's social media posts (including an image of himself as Jesus) raised concerns about the president's mental fitness and whether Kennedy would invoke the 25th Amendment; Kennedy answered "Absolutely not"1:12:54.

Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA)1:14:49: Defended Trump's Iran policy as "cleaning up messes"1:14:49 and raised PBM abuses, prompting Kennedy's statement that PBMs "who add nothing are getting 40% of the profits"1:16:45.

Rep. Alma Adams (D-NC)1:20:23: Pressed Kennedy on proposed cuts to farm-to-school, WIC, and school lunch equipment grants1:21:36, and on whether Kennedy discussed these cuts with the president; Kennedy said "No"1:22:27.

Rep. James Comer (R-KY) (referred to as "Mr. CRM" in transcript)1:25:41: Asked about delayed CSBG funding to Kentucky1:26:09 and PBM vertical integration, which Kennedy called a safety issue involving four companies controlling the industry1:28:191:28:31.

Rep. Donald Norcross (D-NJ)1:31:12: Raised mental health parity enforcement, noting HHS stopped defending parity regulations in a lawsuit and lost the case1:32:391:34:21; also flagged a nearly 40% proposed cut to SAMHSA1:35:15.

Rep. Burgess Owens (R-UT)1:44:50: Asked about Minnesota's CCDBG fraud, prompting Kennedy's account of $359 million impounded pending receipts1:46:571:47:59; also discussed health data modernization1:48:44.

Rep. Lucy McBath (D-GA)1:50:06: Challenged Kennedy on calling gun violence a "law enforcement issue" rather than public health1:51:05, noting over 10 children a day die by firearms1:51:56; also pressed him to apologize for autism remarks, which he declined1:54:10.

Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL)1:55:52: Praised Kennedy's disability and DEI policies and asked about the abortion pill, citing a claimed 10% complication rate1:58:561:59:17; Kennedy said he could not comment due to ongoing mifepristone litigation1:59:47.

Rep. Haley Stevens (D-MI)2:01:02: Cited over 2,200 measles cases and three deaths in 20252:01:30, the vaccine panel's vote against the combined measles vaccine for children under four2:01:47, and referenced articles of impeachment (H.R. 944) against Kennedy2:04:37.

Rep. Mark Alford (R-MO), "the good Dr. Ander" in transcript — likely Rep. transcribed name discrepancy2:05:20: Raised United Healthcare's denial of allergy immunotherapy reimbursement2:06:19 and the Khloe Cole Act on strict liability for providers of pediatric gender procedures2:08:35.

Rep. Greg Casar (D-TX)2:10:44: Questioned Kennedy on meetings with pharmaceutical and food CEOs and billionaires versus everyday Americans who lost coverage2:11:012:12:01; cited constituents whose premiums rose from $100 to $500 and $250 to $750 a month2:13:562:14:11.

Rep. Addison McDowell (R-NC)2:16:27: Asked about the transition of education programs (CCAMPIS, NCFMEA) to HHS via interagency agreements2:17:12 and the impact of executive orders restricting pediatric gender procedures2:20:04.

Rep. Summer Lee (D-PA)2:21:22: Cited Black maternal mortality disparities and cuts to Healthy Start2:21:51, and challenged Kennedy on removing the word "black" from funding applications2:24:18; also referenced Kennedy's comments about Black children and medication at a prior Ways and Means hearing2:25:52.

Rep. Kevin Kiley (R-CA)2:26:41: Discussed the new food pyramid and real food.gov website2:27:12, asking about GRAS loophole ingredients — Kennedy said the U.S. has 10,000 food ingredients versus Europe's 4002:28:59.

Rep. Pat Ryan (D-NY), referred to as "Mr. Manion" in transcript2:32:31: Pressed Kennedy on comparing Trump's mental stability favorably to his uncle JFK2:33:22, and criticized HHS's shift of disability/education programs and Kennedy's autism statements2:35:00.

Rep. Glenn "GT" Thompson (R-PA)2:37:47: Discussed CSBG funding delays2:38:22 and his Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act, asking how whole milk improves nutrition; Kennedy called removing it from schools for two generations "criminal"2:40:272:40:48.

Rep. Jahana Hayes (D-CT)2:43:47: A former teacher who was in the school on the day of the Sandy Hook shooting, pressed Kennedy on cuts to SAMHSA and school-based mental health programs and on his "no" answer regarding gun violence as a public health crisis2:44:222:45:45.

Rep. Raul Grijalva (listed as "Miss Grahalva" in transcript)2:49:06: Questioned proposed 12%+ cuts to NIH and asked which diseases deserve less research; Kennedy answered "DEI"2:50:162:50:18; also cited $180 million in canceled National Cancer Institute grants2:50:37.

Rep. Mark DeSaulnier (D-CA)2:54:48: Discussed vape/e-cigarette enforcement, citing a million Chinese vapes confiscated in Illinois2:56:18, and shared personal history on addiction while asking about SAMHSA-funded behavioral health research2:56:462:57:29.

Key moments

Kennedy stated the measles outbreak began before he took office and that the U.S. has fared better than Mexico, Canada, and Europe on a per-capita basis, citing roughly 2,200 U.S. cases in 20250:42:110:43:11.

Rep. Scott pressed Kennedy on whether he supports President Trump sending Medicare to the states; Kennedy repeatedly answered only that Trump's "objective is to save Medicare," never directly addressing the state-control question0:50:040:51:26.

Kennedy said applied behavioral analytics fraud in Minnesota caused actual spending to reach roughly $300 million versus an expected $7 million, with HHS impounding $359 million pending receipts0:54:471:48:04.

Rep. Salinas asked the cost of Kennedy's viral Kid Rock hot-tub video; Kennedy said "I would have no idea"0:59:110:59:13.

Rep. Takano asked three times whether Kennedy would support invoking the 25th Amendment if Trump failed a mental fitness assessment; Kennedy did not answer the question directly and said "Absolutely not" to undergoing an assessment1:12:541:13:47.

Rep. McBath asked how many children died of fluoride toxicity in Georgia in 2024 (Kennedy: zero) versus firearms (over 10 a day nationally), challenging Kennedy's prioritization of fluoride over gun violence1:51:151:52:14.

Kennedy defended his 2025 statement that profoundly autistic children "will never pay taxes, never hold a job... never use a toilet unassisted," refusing to apologize when asked directly by Rep. McBath1:53:091:54:10.

Rep. Casar asked whether Kennedy had met with anyone who lost health insurance in the past year; Kennedy said most who lost Affordable Care Act coverage "are almost all illegal immigrants"2:13:482:13:51.

Kennedy said the U.S. now uses roughly 10,000 chemical ingredients in its food supply, compared to about 400 in Europe, attributing this to the "GRAS" (generally recognized as safe) regulatory loophole2:28:592:29:28.

Rep. Grijalva asked which specific diseases deserve reduced NIH research funding under proposed cuts of over 12%; Kennedy answered "DEI," saying "DEI research has never cured any disease"2:50:162:50:27.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Education and Workforce
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2026-04-17
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Robert Kennedy Jr. — Secretary, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Videoyoutube
Transcript629 caption blocks · 25,185 words · 3:13:46 runtime
EventCongress.gov 119170