AISenate confirmation hearing on CISA, DHS, and IC nominees

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsSenate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs · 2025-07-24 · 119th Congress
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee met to consider several executive nominations, including Sean Plankey to lead the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), Pedro Allende to be DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology, Christopher Fox to be Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, and Edward O'Connell to be an Associate Judge of the D.C. Begins at 0:18:26
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Senate confirmation hearing on CISA, DHS, and IC nominees

Purpose

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee met to consider several executive nominations, including Sean Plankey to lead the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), Pedro Allende to be DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology, Christopher Fox to be Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, and Edward O'Connell to be an Associate Judge of the D.C. Superior Court. Ranking Member Peters announced at the outset that the nomination of Paul Ingrassia for Office of Special Counsel had been withdrawn from the hearing0:20:48. Members questioned the nominees on CISA's reauthorization, election security, alleged censorship, AI risk, and independence of oversight roles. Begins at0:18:26

Who spoke

Chair Rand Paul (R-KY)0:24:19: Swore in the nominees and asked the standard commitment-to-testify question0:24:19; later defended President Trump's personnel authority and argued following the law is not always simple when legal disputes exist1:03:05; closed by praising DHS Secretary Noem for ending CISA's involvement in content moderation and pledged to add anti-censorship language when reauthorizing CISA1:32:491:33:48.

Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI), Ranking Member0:20:17: Confirmed Ingrassia's nomination was withdrawn, calling him unqualified over "bigoted statements"0:20:48; said CISA's workforce has been cut over 30% with a proposed nearly 20% FY2026 budget cut0:21:48; questioned Fox's independence given his ODNI advisory role0:22:21 and later pressed Plankey on meeting CISA's statutory mandates amid budget cuts1:29:51.

Sean Plankey, CISA Director nominee0:25:52: Pledged to focus CISA on securing the federal executive branch and critical infrastructure0:26:10; explained CISA 2015's liability protections for information sharing expire this year0:27:28; repeatedly declined to call the 2020 election "rigged and stolen," saying he had not reviewed its cybersecurity0:30:290:33:20; committed that CISA will not engage in speech regulation or "narrative control" [0:17:50-equiv 1:17:50, 1:19:06].

Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH)0:25:06: Asked Plankey how he would restore CISA's reputation after what he called its deterioration into "a spying agency" under Biden0:25:37; had Plankey explain CISA 2015's expiration implications0:26:30 and cited $24.9 billion in new Coast Guard funding0:29:00.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)0:30:02: Pressed Plankey repeatedly on whether the 2020 election was "rigged and stolen," calling his non-answers unsatisfactory0:31:260:32:56; argued CISA's role requires being "above politics"0:32:56.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI)0:39:02: Introduced Allende's background running Florida's Department of Management Services with a $1 billion budget0:39:32; asked how he used new technology to protect Floridians, prompting Allende's Hurricane Ian Starlink example0:40:53.

Sen. Ashley Moody (R-FL)0:43:06: Asked O'Connell about maintaining courtroom efficiency given case backlogs on the D.C. Superior Court0:43:27.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL)0:50:35: Asked Fox how he would prioritize investigating 2016-era intelligence community actions given Gabbard's declassified documents0:51:37; asked Allende and Plankey about Chinese components in renewable energy infrastructure and grid security0:53:15.

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)0:55:40: Asked each nominee whether they would follow an unlawful presidential directive, getting commitments from all four0:56:11; pressed Allende on AI biological-risk prioritization after OpenAI classified a model as having "high capability of producing biological harm"0:59:421:01:39.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA)1:06:36: Cited a $32 million cost for what she called the Mueller "witch hunt" and asked Fox to commit to pursuing intelligence community accountability regardless of discomfort1:08:571:09:20.

Sen. James Lankford (R-OK)1:09:55: Asked O'Connell how he would manage courtroom delays caused by unprepared defense counsel1:10:19; asked Plankey about consequences if CISA 2015 is not reauthorized1:14:30.

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO)1:15:51: Cited Supreme Court precedent barring government coercion of private censorship and pressed Plankey to commit CISA to exiting "speech regulation" and "narrative control"1:16:081:18:15; raised hospital cybersecurity needs in rural Missouri1:20:36.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)1:21:13: Pressed Fox on whether classified information was shared in the "Signalgate" text exchange, saying reports indicated it came from a document marked "secret"1:21:541:22:52; questioned the timing of Gabbard's declassified 2016-era documents relative to Trump's name appearing in Epstein files reporting1:24:51.

Pedro Allende, DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology nominee0:41:09: Described Florida's research partnerships with universities and Idaho National Laboratory on levee and battery/inverter security0:41:34; cited deploying Starlink satellites 56 hours after Hurricane Ian landfall0:42:22; said he would consult experts and, if directed to break the law, would consult counsel and resign if disagreement persisted0:56:26.

Christopher Fox, IC Inspector General nominee0:46:06: Said his senior advisor title at ODNI is "just a title" and that he has been "insulated" from personnel and organizational decisions0:46:340:46:48; deferred to DOD's classification determination on the Signalgate messages0:49:431:22:26; committed to "turning over every rock" for the intelligence community1:09:33.

Edward O'Connell, D.C. Superior Court nominee0:43:54: Called the Superior Court "extraordinarily overburdened" with too few judges for its caseload0:43:54; described using accountability tools against unprepared counsel during his prosecutorial career1:11:19; said he could not anticipate any circumstance where he would deviate from following the law0:57:22.

Key moments

Ranking Member Peters announced Paul Ingrassia's nomination for Office of Special Counsel was withdrawn, calling him unqualified due to "bigoted statements"0:20:48.

Sen. Blumenthal repeatedly asked Plankey whether the 2020 election was "rigged and stolen"; Plankey declined to give a direct opinion, saying he had "not reviewed any of the cybersecurity of the 2020" election0:30:290:33:20.

Chair Paul intervened to defend Plankey, arguing both parties have historically questioned election outcomes and citing Hillary Clinton's and Jimmy Carter's past comments on Trump's legitimacy0:35:130:35:40.

All four questioned nominees (Allende, Plankey, Fox, O'Connell) stated they would not follow a presidential directive that violated the law, with Allende adding he would consult counsel and resign if a disagreement over legal interpretation persisted0:56:11.

Sen. Hawley obtained Plankey's commitment, "to put it bluntly, yes," that CISA would exit speech regulation, "narrative control," and censorship of American citizens entirely1:18:441:18:58.

Sen. Slotkin pressed Fox on reports that Signalgate information came from a document marked "secret," and Fox said he was "not familiar with DOD's policies when it comes to determining the classification of information" despite deferring to DOD's determination it was unclassified1:22:261:23:14.

Sen. Slotkin questioned the timing of Gabbard's declassified 2016-era intelligence documents, noting they were released the same day Trump's name appeared in Wall Street Journal reporting on the Epstein files1:24:51.

Moreno noted the Coast Guard received $24.9 billion in new funding, the largest amount ever, with recruitment reaching 5,200 new members, an all-time high since 20020:29:000:29:22.

Chair Paul cited a 2020 CISA video encouraging people to report family members to Facebook for challenging government COVID-19 narratives, calling it "unseemly," and pledged to add anti-censorship language to CISA's reauthorization1:32:491:33:48.

Allende cited a federal IT modernization failure at the Bureau of Land Management that ran three times over projected cost, four years late, and cost $19 million in productivity losses1:05:251:05:52.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nominations of Pedro Allende, of Florida, to be Under Secretary for Science and Technology, and Sean Plankey, of Pennsylvania, to be Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, both of the Department of Homeland Security, Paul Ingrassia, of New York, to be Special Counsel, Office of Special Counsel, Anthony Lomangino, of Florida, to be a Governor of the United States Postal Service for a term expiring December 8, 2031, John LaValle, of New York, to be a Governor of the United States Postal Service for a term expiring December 8, 2030, Charles Arrington, of Illinois, to be a Member of the Federal Labor Relations Authority for a term expiring July 1, 2030, Christopher Fox, of Virginia, to be Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and Edward Aloysius O'Connell, of the District of Columbia, to be an Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia for the tern of fifteen years.
CommitteeSenate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-07-24
TypeMeeting
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